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#447496 - 02/27/18 10:37 AM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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A pity you didn't order a JBL Eon 206p to compare... Just 11 kilograms for stereo, very powerful, bass to 62Hz too.
But on the other hand I understand, it's a matter of being enthusiastic about a specific speaker or instrument, not just rational, we all know that I guess. I’m guessing the 206p works well for you. You may have noticed a JBL system in my signature. JBL is good stuff. I really like my JBL Eon One...just a bit more than I want to carry right now. A few of the reasons I kept the Bose S1 Pro after trying it out: 1. Small, Compact, Light 2. Easy to carry 3. Incredible sound and volume for its size. 4. 3 channels and Bluetooth. When you experience the S1 Pro, you’ll understand why many like it...very rational decision to buy. 😊
Edited by guitpic1 (02/27/18 10:38 AM)
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#447501 - 02/27/18 12:58 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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guitpic, best wishes and best of luck on the gig ... how long has it been since your surgery? Tx for asking. Surgery was a little over three months ago. My right hip was replaced and that went well. However, within a few weeks I was back in the hospital. First time in intensive care with what was described as a septic infection. My wife was told to prepare for the possibility I wouldn’t make it. However,4 days of IV meds later, I was home. Next issue was a blood clot...DVT they call it...but that seems to be getting better. So, recouperation/healing is happening but slowly. Since I’m going back to gigging, just a bit, I’ve been advised to go as light as I can on equipment....hence the S1 Pro. Very similar to what happened to me when I had the defibrillator implant. Still fighting the infection, but it looks better since they went back in and cleaned it up. The infection had not reached the device, so that is good. I'm glad you have beaten it!
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#447504 - 02/27/18 02:52 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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Edited by Dnj (02/27/18 02:54 PM)
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#447513 - 02/27/18 06:41 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
[Re: guitpic1]
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However, within a few weeks I was back in the hospital. First time in intensive care with what was described as a septic infection. My wife was told to prepare for the possibility I wouldn’t make it. However,4 days of IV meds later, I was home. Next issue was a blood clot...DVT they call it...but that seems to be getting better. So, recouperation/healing is happening but slowly. Since I’m going back to gigging, just a bit, I’ve been advised to go as light as I can on equipment....hence the S1 Pro.
Holy crap!!! Recoup is worse than the original problem ! Glad you are on the mend, and in the future, any time you go for dental work make sure you take heavy antibiotics ... infections can grab onto a prosthesis and there's no blood flowing through to get rid of them ... Take it light on the gig ... God Bless Don, Tony Tx for the comments. It was a pretty scary time. Even dental work now requires antibiotics. I’m holding off on dental work for a while. I probably shouldn’t be buying any new equipment with my health history. But I guess it’s my way of saying I’ll be around for a while. 😊👍👍 With my health right now, I don't even buy green bananas.
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#447514 - 02/27/18 06:49 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
[Re: DonM]
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However, within a few weeks I was back in the hospital. First time in intensive care with what was described as a septic infection. My wife was told to prepare for the possibility I wouldn’t make it. However,4 days of IV meds later, I was home. Next issue was a blood clot...DVT they call it...but that seems to be getting better. So, recouperation/healing is happening but slowly. Since I’m going back to gigging, just a bit, I’ve been advised to go as light as I can on equipment....hence the S1 Pro.
Holy crap!!! Recoup is worse than the original problem ! Glad you are on the mend, and in the future, any time you go for dental work make sure you take heavy antibiotics ... infections can grab onto a prosthesis and there's no blood flowing through to get rid of them ... Take it light on the gig ... God Bless Don, Tony Tx for the comments. It was a pretty scary time. Even dental work now requires antibiotics. I’m holding off on dental work for a while. I probably shouldn’t be buying any new equipment with my health history. But I guess it’s my way of saying I’ll be around for a while. 😊👍👍 With my health right now, I don't even buy green bananas. LOL Too funny! Not lost your humor
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#447517 - 02/27/18 09:23 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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With my health, right now, I don't buy anything that cannot be consumed in a single meal. Tomorrow, I'm off to the local radiology center to get a cat scan of my kidneys and lungs. Things are not looking good for this old codger, but I can assure you it has been one Hell of a ride. Good luck, Gary
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#447571 - 02/28/18 12:20 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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Jim, when I was lugging around a pair of Barbetta Sona 32-SC speakers and the poles, which seemed like a century ago, I loved what I heard, but soon realized that I was getting too old to put those speakers on poles and in reality, never really needed that much power (450-watts RMS each). Even when performing in the nite clubs and restaurants with younger crowds, 900-watts RMS was overkill. Consequently, when I went to the Bose L1 PAS system, I was elated. The weight was reduced dramatically, no more dangerous poles to contend with, and my biggest concern was people trying to lean against the tower as if it were some type of leaning post. I pretty much solved the problem by placing a "Danger - High Wattage" sign on the post in bright, red and yellow letters, which kinda scared most folks from touching the tower. It was almost funny to watch them reach for the tower to lean on then noticed the sign and quickly pulled their hand back as if they would be electrocuted. Now, I know that Yamaha pianos are heavily stereo sampled, so I went about creating my own, custom, mono piano that has been downloaded thousands of times and used by lots of pro entertainers on this and the PSR Tutorial forum. It sounds thick, full bodied, but still crisp and clean. It solved the problem. Most of the other voices sounded just fine in mono. When I switched to the L1 Compact, again, I initially went with mono, and that single L1 Compact covered 99 percent of all my audiences without every having a complaint or problem.For the bigger jobs, though, 150 or more audience members, I used a pair of them in stereo, which sounded a bit fuller and provided fantastic coverage for audiences to 300 people, indoors or outdoors. I rarely had to use that second amp, but I had it in the office and ready to go, just in case. I eventually sold it to one of the other local players who had a pair of monsters on poles. I think they were Peavey SP5Gs that tipped the scales at 60-pounds each. After using the Bose L1 Compact for two days, he sold those Peavies to the highest Ebay bidder. He plays an old Korg and a tenor sax, often just uses the Korg for midi files to back his sax and singing. He primarily performs at a high end Italian restaurant northeast of Baltimore on US 40. For me, the Bose systems have been phenomenal during the past decade or more, and I would never consider going back to a conventional sound system. This is especially true for those of us who rely heavily on our vocals during a performance. The Bose systems provided the clearest vocals of any sound system I have used or heard in more than 50 years on stage. Nothing else came remotely close. Good luck on whatever you decide upon, Gary
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#447572 - 02/28/18 12:28 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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Edited by Dnj (02/28/18 12:28 PM)
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#447670 - 03/01/18 10:11 AM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Ironically, all of the big bands, both large and small, even orchestras, when amped, which most are, are amped in mono - not stereo. I don't need no skinkin' stereo! Gary
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#447675 - 03/01/18 10:50 AM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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OK, one more post, off to a job, in a 5 - 9" winter storm warning!
Before I turned on the 2nd speaker last night, I tried mono. Half my instruments were gone, or compressed into one local sound. When I turned the 2nd on, the audience gasped - I had them listen and tell me....unbelievable difference, to our ears. Now, not a physics major, but just the piano alone filled the entire room. Add the beautiful ensembles and band and there is no way I can get that sound in mono (Gary thanks for your piano too, I liked it).
I still want to explore the S1s in stereo, because I did like the detail of the Compact, years back.
Edited by zuki (03/01/18 10:50 AM)
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#447676 - 03/01/18 10:55 AM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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OK, one more post, off to a job, in a 5 - 9" winter storm warning!
Before I turned on the 2nd speaker last night, I tried mono. Half my instruments were gone, or compressed into one local sound. When I turned the 2nd on, the audience gasped - I had them listen and tell me....unbelievable difference, to our ears. Now, not a physics major, but just the piano alone filled the entire room. Add the beautiful ensembles and band and there is no way I can get that sound in mono (Gary thanks for your piano too, I liked it).
I still want to explore the S1s in stereo, because I did like the detail of the Compact, years back.
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#447678 - 03/01/18 11:06 AM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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Jim, if you were still plugged into both the audio outs and just turned off the amp, the result would be, as expected, just a single channel coming out of one side of the keyboard. In order for the keyboard to sum both channels into the mono channel, you must unplug the Right channel plug. What your audience was hearing was just the right channel of the keyboard and no left sounds would be coming out at all if the plug remained in place. It's the way it is wired and the jack switching configuration. Try doing the same comparison again, but instead unplug the Right channel and allow the sounds to come out of the Left/Mono into a single amp. Good luck, and I'm glad you liked that piano, Gary
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#447686 - 03/01/18 12:27 PM
Re: Ordered a 2nd Bose S1 Pro
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No, going through a mixer doesn't work when doing this type of comparison because you still have those plugs plugged into the back of the keyboard. Within the Left/Mono plug and the Right plug, there are leaf switches that direct the signals. Consequently, this prevents you from playing in mono if you merely turn off the amp on one side of the mixer or turn down that channel in the mixer going to one of the keyboard's outputs. When you plug a jack into the Left/Mono and nothing into the right output, the leaf switch connects the outputs together internally to that single output. However, if you plug into just the Right output and nothing into the left, then you would only get the sounds from the right channel and nothing from the left. Jim, you can always call me on the telephone if you need help with any of this stuff. This time of year, I'm around the house most of the time. I will PM you the telephone number. Gary
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