Just when I thought arrangers peaked in creativity, I see this. It certainly takes the hum-drum out of a style. I could see you filling the dance floor if you do what Jurgen is doing here...example: drop the sound down to just a bass drum and then bring the rest of the "band" back in (mostly starting at 02:55). I don't understand how this works on an arranger....I thought the KAOSS was just for effects.

This really interests me. I'll probably not buy one but I'd like to hear your comments on this.

Just came across this video, interesting it seems....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVVxcTNew7w

regards,
John

Truly a case of 'different strokes for different folks'. I can't think of any musical scenario where I'd find that useful. Now maybe it's just a cultural thing or just a basic difference in our musical preferences, but I can't even think of a venue that I'd (me, chas) be playing at where the music in THAT video would 'fill the dance floor'. To my ears (and I speak for myself ONLY), that music sounds more 'arranger-ish' than ever because of the repetitive nature of most of it's rhythm components. I say this as one who is not into so-called 'dance music', especially types such as 'Trance', etc. But that's just me, I'm sure there are others that feel entirely different. Like I said, 'different strokes....'.

chas

PS: Just wanted to make it clear that my comments were directed at MARK'S video. However, for the record, I was not impressed with John's video either, and for the same reason, too 'arranger-ish'. I think it's imperative to find a way to make the accompaniment part be more 'passive' and not dominate the performance. If you're very aware of the accompaniment in a performance, you're doing something wrong. YOU, not the accompanient, should be the focus of the performance. Strong vocals and/or a strong right hand, along with a little creativity in 'juice-ing up' (augmenting) the arrangement helps a lot diminishing the 'arranger' effect. A couple of people here, DonM is a good example, do this very well. Again, JMO.

Here's a recording I did of Mustang Sally using some of the KAOSS features ( Triplitizer (sp?) ) when I had my KORG Pa4x...enjoy!

https://app.box.com/s/q2a07untahsiq678a7dxwm689rtk033m

very good. what style was that on the 4X? Why did you give up on that board????

Donny good, real good, John C.

I'm not understanding this. Where does the KAOSS effect come in?

I'd really like to understand what's going on here with this KAOSS.

The KAOSS is integrated into the 4x software. Now they designed it strictly to control the parameters on the 4x? i.e. an external KAOSS box would function differently.

I'm really impressed with how you can cut off the whole "band" and just have the drums playing, then bring the band back in with the wave of a finger. With a little imagination, that effect would go over big with "disco" and "big band" and what else. I'm also assuming that if you're playing a guitar patch and you want to "portamento/glide" from one note to another, you don't need to use the mod control.....just use your finger on the screen?

So.....is anyone familiar with what else this KAOSS does on a PA4x.

from 43 to 50 seconds, you hear a slight change of the Rhytm, thats Kaos

listen @:41 ( Triplitizer) (sp?) ......... there are so many effects you can use to alter the sound with KAOSS it's an amazing feature, rhythm etc....this is just one example..