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#451774 - 05/11/18 06:40 AM Played the 4X live yesterday
zuki Offline
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Pretty rough still, vs the 3X. Set my 4X back up last night after gig to keep working on it.

Is it miles ahead of the 3X? No way. Most songs sound the same, some sound a bit more defined (through headphones) and some don't match up against the 3X beauty. I believe the 76 keys make for a better sound dispersion overall.

That said, will not give up on the 4X. I have eliminated the mixer and have 4 outputs going directly into the QSCs. (2) for independent vocal control and (2) for independent keyboard control. I went back to the Apex stand it is so CLEAN............all wires behind me. The small keyboard footprint looks almost childish. LOL

The 3X will stay around for a bit longer.
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#451775 - 05/11/18 06:49 AM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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Good luck zuki....but IMO the only way to make the pa4x work for you is to make a commitment keep gigging with it day by day and making changes, EQ, parts, sounds, styles, vol levels, etc, etc, on the fly & saving them in real time performance mode, put the pa3x in the closet, you have to let go,....it will take some time during many shows but eventually it will become right for you.


Edited by Dnj (05/11/18 07:11 AM)

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#451776 - 05/11/18 07:16 AM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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Agreed. I did pretty much the same going from the 1x to the 3x. Spent a few weeks getting the 'guts' over into the 3x, and then fine tuning it along the way. Have to say I've felt no real urge to move up to a 4x, the 3x is doing all I ask of it.
Keep plugging away at it, zuki.

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#451800 - 05/11/18 04:26 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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Really on the fence with this one. 4X is a star in some things and disappointing in a lot of other ways. The 3X was always a star, to me. I'm really thinking the 76 keys makes a huge difference and wish I had that version to compare. Currently, not sure if I want the change.
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#451803 - 05/11/18 05:04 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By zuki
Really on the fence with this one. 4X is a star in some things and disappointing in a lot of other ways. The 3X was always a star, to me. I'm really thinking the 76 keys makes a huge difference and wish I had that version to compare. Currently, not sure if I want the change.


So your dumping the Pa4x? return time not up yet? at least you gave it a try maybe just stick with the pa3x as its working better for you....no need to change just make what you got better and better.

good luck

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#451804 - 05/11/18 06:03 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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61 keys on any board is difficult.
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#451805 - 05/11/18 06:07 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: Steve A]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Steve A
61 keys on any board is difficult.


I never never had any problems playing 61 keys luv it.

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#451855 - 05/12/18 06:43 PM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
shueymusic Offline
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Keep at it! I just did a memorial service today and used the Genos. This was the first time I missed the tilt screen on the Pa4X. I used the “mighty bright” light on my music stand and there was a glare on the Genos. Wasn’t a huge deal but I knew the Pa4X would have solved the issue.

There is a period of time that we adapt to our current keyboard. Our ears adjust... our opinion will adjust with time, too!
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#451863 - 05/13/18 02:06 AM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: zuki]
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"There is a period of time that we adapt to our current keyboard. Our ears adjust... our opinion will adjust with time, too!"
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How true; A point well taken Johnathan.
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#451869 - 05/13/18 06:33 AM Re: Played the 4X live yesterday [Re: shueymusic]
zuki Offline
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Originally Posted By shueymusic
Keep at it! I just did a memorial service today and used the Genos. This was the first time I missed the tilt screen on the Pa4X. I used the “mighty bright” light on my music stand and there was a glare on the Genos. Wasn’t a huge deal but I knew the Pa4X would have solved the issue.

There is a period of time that we adapt to our current keyboard. Our ears adjust... our opinion will adjust with time, too!


Nice reminder that things take time. I'm surprised the Genos has no tilt screen. Major disappointment, IMO. The reason I didn't go with a 61 3X was due to a fixed screen.
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