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#452789 - 05/30/18 12:00 PM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Those that attended the Synthzone Jam at the Diamond Ranch got to see my monster gas grill in person. I also have an electric smoker that I use to smoke fish and turkey in once in a while. While you can use a grill for smoking meats, they tend to get much too warm, which is why I use an electric smoker where I can readily control the temperature. The secret, however, to high quality and great tasting smoked fish and meats lies in the brine solution and the length of time those meats and fillets soak in the brine. I will try to post my brine recipe and smoking technique later today when I get in the office. All the best, Gary
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#452810 - 05/30/18 02:14 PM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Here's my Smoked Salmon Recipe that I promised to post earlier. It requires a lot of work and ingredients, but those that have tasted my smoked salmon, including some restaurateurs, claim it is the best they have ever tasted. SMOKED SALMON There are lots of good recipes for smoked salmon. Unfortunately, there are not many great recipes for smoked fish, but this particular one seems to be the best of all. After more than five years of experimentation, using every species of fish available in the mid-Atlantic region, the recipe has been modified until it has finally reached the pinnacle of perfection. If you enjoy the flavor of smoked fish, especially oily species such as salmon, bluefish, Atlantic mackerel, king mackerel and cobia, you'll love this. BRINE SOLUTION 2 qts. Water 1 cup dark brown sugar 4 tblsp. Old Bay Seafood Seasoning 4 tblsp. chopped, fresh Vidalia onions ½ cup kosher salt 1 tsp. garlic powder 1 tblsp. Montreal steak seasoning 6 drops Worcestershire sauce 1 tblsp. lemon juice DIRECTIONS: Thoroughly mix all ingredients of brine solution in a plastic container until salt and sugar are completely dissolved. Using a flat, Tupperware container pour in a small amount of bring solution (about one-inch deep). Cut fish fillets into inch-thick, four-inch squares and place them in the container in layers. After the first layer is in place, pour in enough brine solution to cover them, then add the second layer and continue until all the fillets are covered with brine. Cover the container using a sealable lid or Saran Wrap and refrigerate for five days. Be sure to agitate the container at least once daily to prevent the brine ingredients from settling–this is important. If there are several layers of fillets, it's also a good idea to occasionally separate them at least once daily to ensure all surfaces are exposed to the brine. At the end of the brining period, remove the fillets and pat dry with paper towels. Place them on a broiler pan sprayed with Pam non-stick vegetable oil and bake in a 350-degree, preheated oven for 25 minutes, then place the fillets in the smoker. Using an electric smoker, smoke for approximately two hours using hickory chips. When the fillets are golden brown in color, remove them from the smoker, allow a few minutes for them to cool, then place them in Zip-Loc bags and refrigerate overnight before serving. While they taste good fresh from the smoker, the hickory flavor penetrates the meat completely when refrigerated in air-tight bags. The smoked fillets will last up to six weeks in the refrigerator and may be frozen for up to three months. Smoked fillets can be shredded and used with your favorite dip, or you can make a fantastic smoked salmon salad to be used as a substitute for tuna-salad. Enjoy! Gary
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#452843 - 05/30/18 07:17 PM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Don, I seriously doubt that you were ever allergic to Penicillin. Most folks that are allergic to Penicillin are also high allergic to eggs in any form. Last time I saw you, I was pretty sure you were eating eggs for breakfast. Good luck, Gary
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#452954 - 06/01/18 02:31 PM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Dave, note that I said MOST - Not ALL! There are exceptions to every rule. Having spent 15 years working in the field of medicine, I saw lots of things the average person never, or rarely sees. And, despite many of the more important cells in my aging brain being a bit frazzled, I still can remember most of the pharmacology information I learned way back then. Not much has really changed when it comes to allergic reactions to certain medications. Gary
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#452957 - 06/01/18 02:49 PM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Fact is you an allergist can run these tests, virtually risk-free, and then you will know for sure. Mine said only an extremely small percentage of people they test are allergic to it. He said even if you once had a reaction, the body tends to change after a few years and there is a good chance the allergy is no longer present. They inject a tiny bit, barely under the skin, then wait 20 minutes to see if there is any reaction, such as reddening or inflammation of the site. They also do a control that is SUPPOSED to cause a slight irritation. If the first test is negative, they do a second one with a slightly higher dose. As long as the results are negative, they increase the doses every 20 to 30 minutes for a total of five (I think). That took from 8 a.m. till nearly noon. Back at 1 p.m. to take the first oral dose, half a pill, which is 1/4 of a normal dose. There is a one hour wait and then a 2nd dose of 1/2 strength, one pill. After one more hour and no negative reaction you get a full dose, two pills. You have to wait one for hour before leaving. If you take a Beta Blocker, as I do, you must skip it for a day preceding the procedure, because if you have strong reaction, they use Epinephrine injection to counteract it if needed. The Beta Blocker would also block the Epinephrine. I listened to nearly an entire recorded book on my phone while waiting! But it was well worth it.
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#452995 - 06/02/18 09:32 AM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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Donny, I have a (overpriced) George Foreman 'tabletop' grill but don't use it anymore as I don't think it does a good job of grilling. Plus, it's a PIA to clean. I also have a nice SS portable gas grill which I keep set up in the screened room in case it rains when I want to use the big grill. The big grill is hooked into my gas line, so at least no portable gas tanks to contend with. I also have an infraRed wave cooker that is really great for steaks and the like and practically smokeless and odorless. It's 'tabletop' but big and somewhat of a PIA to clean. My latest 'acquisition' is the AIR Fryer, which is great for a lot of things that you might ordinarily prepare in a Deep fryer or an oven. Very easy to clean, smaller than the Wave oven, and nearly as fast as a microwave. Ahhh, so many choices these days. Happy grillin' (or BarBQ'ing). BTW, the worst for you healthwise, charcoal grilling....naturally, it's also the best tasting . chas
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#452999 - 06/02/18 09:54 AM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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We too tried the George Foreman grill, used it a few times and gave it to our son, who later gave it to a friend. Nothing beats the added flavor of real flame and real smoke on meats and vegetables, IMO. Donny, the Optigrill resembles the Foreman grill in many ways, and Chas is right, it was a PITA to clean. Chas, at our age, we really don't have to worry about the adverse health risk of charcoal grilling, though in my case I got lazy and went to a propane gas grill many years ago. I visited the cardiologist last week and he told me that my heart health was excellent and for some strange reason, my cholesterol has come down to under 200 for the first time in the past three decades. Damned, there goes my shot for a massive heart attack and instant death. He said not to come back until this time next year. I told him that I'm not coming back at all. Last night, I grilled some Old Bay Seafood seasoned sausages on the grill and enjoyed a side of garlic smashed potatoes with, margarine, sour cream, bacon bits and chives on top. I'm not gonna linger in a nursing home, and for me, this IS a heart healthy diet. All the best, Gary
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#453018 - 06/02/18 07:51 PM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: zuki]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Jim, there is absolutely no reason on Earth to cut down on grilled foods, especially at Tony's age. First and foremost, numerous studies clearly show that people on the planet that have the highest cholesterol live the longest. Same holds true for fat intake. There are only a few places on earth where folks consume more fat than in France - yet they have a far lower incidence of cardio-vascular disease than the US, which emphasizes low fat low cholesterol diets. Ironically, the race that has the lowest cholesterol and fat intake is the Australian Aborigines, and they have the highest incidence of cardio vascular disease. Go figure. Jim, I spent 15 years of my life working in Cardio-Pulmonary Medicine. I did the workups on thousands of patients that had to undergo bypass surgery. More than 70 percent had low or normal fat intakes and cholesterol levels. Additionally, there are hundreds of studies that clearly show that taking cholesterol reducing drugs will not extend your life a single day, but the side effects can be fatal. Duh! What's wrong with this picture? Tony, enjoy those steaks, chops, burgers and anything else you cook on the grill - you will likely outlive most of us. Gary
Edited by travlin'easy (06/02/18 07:51 PM)
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#453038 - 06/03/18 06:41 AM
Re: Grilling OT
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Jim, there is absolutely no reason on Earth to cut down on grilled foods, especially at Tony's age. First and foremost, numerous studies clearly show that people on the planet that have the highest cholesterol live the longest. Same holds true for fat intake. There are only a few places on earth where folks consume more fat than in France - yet they have a far lower incidence of cardio-vascular disease than the US, which emphasizes low fat low cholesterol diets. Ironically, the race that has the lowest cholesterol and fat intake is the Australian Aborigines, and they have the highest incidence of cardio vascular disease. Go figure. Jim, I spent 15 years of my life working in Cardio-Pulmonary Medicine. I did the workups on thousands of patients that had to undergo bypass surgery. More than 70 percent had low or normal fat intakes and cholesterol levels. Additionally, there are hundreds of studies that clearly show that taking cholesterol reducing drugs will not extend your life a single day, but the side effects can be fatal. Duh! What's wrong with this picture? Tony, enjoy those steaks, chops, burgers and anything else you cook on the grill - you will likely outlive most of us. Gary I was talking about the EXTRA cocktail and beer
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