Personally I say NO....
how about you?..

88 key arranger won't sell.

Well, this is the wrong place to ask the question, be ause the majorrity of the visitors dont even play weighted keys, and they will base their decision of what they need themselves

However, the actuall success of the low end Casio PX-360/560 shows their is definately a market for these instruments..


Dont you just think everyone deserves an instrument that fits his needs? In general their is atleast 20 piano players for every arranger player. If only 10% of them buys an instrument with an arranger in it, that makes 2 times the sales of the whole high end arranger market..

I think for Casio half of their piano's have an arranger on board... and when you count the yamaha arranger app, the same goes for yamaha and Roland...


So with this proof of my point, there is no reason to say no against a stagepiano with build in arranger... other then say no because you will not buy it yourself...

The Yamaha CVP series still sell extremely well,...
They even brought arranger styles(mid to low end) to their other models like csp and p125 and 515 trough an app..

Because 88 pianos with an arranger part added do sell...

I thought this was a yes or no poll only one word is required yes or no...?

YES!
I want a digital piano. To me, that means 88 weighted keys.
I also want the functionality (root word "fun") of an arranger so I can entertain myself and my family.
I'm new at this, so the only instrument I know that fits the bill is the Yamaha DGX-660, which doesn't seem to be well thought of here. If there are other, better examples, I don't know what they are.
The other alternatives I'm aware of is an add-on device, like the Roland BK-M, to a digital piano or one of the software/tablet solutions like OneManBand.
I, for one, would like to see a really nice instrument with 88 weighted, piano-like keys.
Just my 2 cents.

I see this is your first post on Sz welcome to the forum.

Personally I don't NEED a 88 key arranger, 76 is just fine for my use.
But, that don't mean I would say NO. If it's market for it, why not?

besides yes or no
......using 88 "weighted keys" to play anything other then piano vs using arranger kb SOUNDS , organ, trumpet, guitar, synth, etc,..and a much lighter keybed feel correctly is counter productive .......

I agree with statements on the other 88 genos topic, it will never happen...too many options to choose for players. We are lucky to even have arranger kbs made anymore by just a few left companies at this stage of the game,...dwindling future sales will drive what is made as profits are the main concern for any company. Tuck away an arranger kb in your closet as one day there will be no more, the way it's going the old generation is dropping off fast and the new generation is doing their own thing musically
..old traditions in life are hard to pass on in every aspect of life.

Yes it seems that important to him, so he created an account to tell you ...

No.

YES!!!!

There are probably more 25 and 49 key controllers than 88. There is this thought that if you're a piano player (which few arranger players are) you need 88 keys. Hogwash! Like some of you, I have a very nice acoustic Grand in my living room (which I keep tuned but rarely play) and I'm trying to think of the last time I needed to play the keys at the extreme ends of that piano. As far as needing 88 keys to allow for more 'zones' to play different instruments on one keybed, who DOES that?

The bottom line is, if there was a REAL hue and cry for a 88 key arranger, at least one of the manufacturers would have made one by now. There will always be individuals that want something outside the norm; manufacturers rarely listen to them. Just as the rare pianist who plays an arranger might want 88 keys, the rare organist who plays an arranger might want 61 keys....and oh yeah, an extra manual and foot pedals . Best bet, if you want an 88 key arranger and a 88 key controller and arranger module (or 2) won't do, do what the guy with the circular piano did; have one custom built.

chas

Where?

On 2nd tought, i don’t think i can afford that( or would be willing to pay that much)

I have a CVP307 Clavinova at home. Unless I was playing strictly piano I don’t need 88 keys and even at that I could get by on 76.

No

I prefer a high end piano with the ability to add a module if needed. I think if the 88 key Arranger was offered tt would be so so on both ends. Sort of like the Casio's . Decent Piano but not so great arranger.
I'm kind of, sort of, maybe for a great price, in the market for a BK7M for my FP90. Don't know why I sold mine.

I thought Bachus’s original idea was best.Just add a decent arranger module to the 88 note keyboard of your choice.

Lord knows there are some nice arranger modules available.

How about the gigging piano player, that most likely would love the comfort of piano action and 88 of them... and also the features we take for granted..
But they currently only own a single portable piano.. maybe a Casio privia, or a Yamaha digital, or a Roland..


Most of the working piano players I know, fall in the above categories..


This is why I say YES... there is a need for 88 weighted keys arranger.. It can not be a Genos type... working piano players can not afford the over priced gear..


Taking a poll where most of the votes are from arranger players that love PSR action and mid priced Korgs… does not seem to be the best opinions..

Well there is just Ketron and Ketron.. The Roland BK7 is phasing out and getting kind of old.




Thats my whole point... they should add high end arranger abilities to a high end piano... The Yamaha CVP series is a good example, altough its only half a Genos and msses some really important features.


Noboddy ever did a high end arranger in 88 key format...
And only Ketron does high end arrangers in a module format...

For me, no.

I am not a piano player and I would not know what to do with all the extra keys. There are some portable 88 keyboard pianos with some arranger features. So we are left with an arranger which has a passable piano, or an 88 keyboard that has a passable arranger functions. A 88 keyboard with all of the Korg’s or Yamaha’s arranger would bring the price to not acceptable.

If I wanted both.
A module and a controller keyboard would be my choice – if I played piano.

My last thought. As a purest I do not believe in mixing the instruments, they both have their own beauty. Buy the best you can afford and add module.

John C.