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#457109 - 08/29/18 06:22 PM KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?...
Dnj Offline
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KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?...I am familiar with the KORg but never laid hands on a Genos yet.

For you players that have Both (Steve M?)etc,.. or tried both what are the Pros & Cons of each songbook setup for live performance.

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#457115 - 08/29/18 07:25 PM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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And Steve and others -- How close is the S975 to the Genos in storing song memnory?
John C.

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#457120 - 08/29/18 10:09 PM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?...I am familiar with the KORg but never laid hands on a Genos yet.

For you players that have Both (Steve M?)etc,.. or tried both what are the Pros & Cons of each songbook setup for live performance.


The big advantage of the Genos is that you have your performance memmories on top of the songbook... together they make a perfect team..

This is mainly because the philosophy for live use between the instruments is different, Yamaha's philosophy is to have everything preprepared and accessible trough the performance memories

Where korg's philosophy is to offer yoyu as many tools for changing your performance real time and live... thats why there is just a single songbook entry/song on the pa4x, and no performance memmories but just a lot of buttons

What i do like on the pa4x is the set list... which works very well for live use, as it allows you to make a selection out of your songbook for easy access, i dont even know if the genos has such a feature
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#457131 - 08/30/18 04:41 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Bachus]
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Sorry the korg has 4 performance buttons memorised with each songbook entry. I know because that's how mine is set up. It even allows 4 performances with each mp3 midi or mp3+g file.
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#457133 - 08/30/18 05:18 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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From my point of view both are effective tools. What I like about Genos is the Playlist is tied to registration buttons, with 10 registration buttons the sky is the limit as to what can be set up. What’s cool about the Playlist in Genos is that you when you hit the Playlist selection via the touch screen it can be set to pull up any registration i.e. 1 thru 10. Usually I choose reg 1 to open a song. I reserve buttons 8 and 9 to turn on/turn off the vocal harmonized. I usually reserve button to for the ending. Playlist via registrations can trigger midi files or mp3 files too.

I don’t find advantages of Songbook over Playlist and vice versa, they both get the job done but in different ways.

I don’t have an s975 but I know for the s970 there’s the Music Finder feature but it cannot be tied to registrations like the Playlist in Genos. When I use the s970 I work with registrations and the Music Finder feature.

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#457141 - 08/30/18 07:34 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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I wish they would ask REAL Pro players that use both to find out what design would be best for live performance,..................
to this day nothing IMO ever compares to KETRON MidJay PRO units where you can actually play ALL MODES AT ONCE separately so you can switch between all live..style/smf/mp3/wav/fx/ all controlled with sliders in real time just brilliant. That is a feature I miss.








Edited by Dnj (08/30/18 07:39 AM)

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#458078 - 09/14/18 08:30 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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#458122 - 09/15/18 05:57 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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Genos with registrations/playlist is very versatile. Works a bit better for me than Songbook.
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#458126 - 09/15/18 08:18 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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The fact that you can have a full bank of registrations for every entry on the Genos, puts the Genos in a world of its own..
Only Wersi has such a feature in oax..
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#458128 - 09/15/18 08:26 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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yet genos has NO TILT display!!!

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#458130 - 09/15/18 08:30 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
yet genos has NO TILT display!!!


Which you don’t need as long as you don’t use the Genos in open air or under bright stage lights...

On top of that your comment is totally oftopic on a question about songbooks..


Edited by Bachus (09/15/18 08:31 AM)
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#458135 - 09/15/18 09:07 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
yet genos has NO TILT display!!!


Which you don’t need as long as you don’t use the Genos in open air or under bright stage lights...

On top of that your comment is totally oftopic on a question about songbooks..


That is definitely not true I played in many facilities and events with overhead lighting with out tilt display and you are blinded to see anything you have to use some kind of cover shield or 2nd tier on your stand a tilted display is a must. Let me add the display is absolutely on topic as it's part of the overall display experience which Yamaha genos dropped the ball on G1 for sure lets hope they rectify it on G2.


Edited by Dnj (09/15/18 09:59 AM)

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#458137 - 09/15/18 10:13 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
yet genos has NO TILT display!!!


Which you don’t need as long as you don’t use the Genos in open air or under bright stage lights...

On top of that your comment is totally oftopic on a question about songbooks..


That is definitely not true I played in many facilities and events with overhead lighting with out tilt display and you are blinded to see anything you have to use some kind of cover shield or 2nd tier on your stand a tilted display is a must. Let me add the display is absolutely on topic as it's part of the overall display experience which Yamaha genos dropped the ball on G1 for sure lets hope they rectify it on G2.


As i said, bright stage lights... so very true..

And still the coment has no place in a discussion over songbooks...
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#458139 - 09/15/18 10:52 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Bachus]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
yet genos has NO TILT display!!!


Which you don’t need as long as you don’t use the Genos in open air or under bright stage lights...

On top of that your comment is totally oftopic on a question about songbooks..


That is definitely not true I played in many facilities and events with overhead lighting with out tilt display and you are blinded to see anything you have to use some kind of cover shield or 2nd tier on your stand a tilted display is a must. Let me add the display is absolutely on topic as it's part of the overall display experience which Yamaha genos dropped the ball on G1 for sure lets hope they rectify it on G2.


As i said, bright stage lights... so very true..

And still the coment has no place in a discussion over songbooks...


bachus how much stage experience performing do you have?....that said lights above you and displays can be brutal without correct shielding or tilt angling of the display if you want to see what your doing on stage...I've been thru every situation and know what I am talking about all these years,....that said the songbook/display, laptop, tablet, or whatever is used is useless if you can't see it well.....we are talking about the features of a songbook or display right? seeing it is part of that.....
I'm done now and stick to my thoughts..

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#458140 - 09/15/18 11:50 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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Again... this topic is about the songbook, why are you trying to take it in a whole other direction? just lets discuss songbook functionallity korg vs yamaha... before this thread (the one you started) goes down the drain..

My opinion : yamaha blasts korgs songbook into pieces.. just because you can attach a whole bank of registrations.. it adds a whole new layer of depth.
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#458187 - 09/16/18 09:55 PM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
yet genos has NO TILT display!!!


And PA4X has no Hawaiian guitar. Well, long as we’re going off topic, why not goof this thread up a bit more.

🤪
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#458196 - 09/17/18 07:48 AM Re: KORG PA Songbook vs Yamaha Genos?... [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Originally Posted By Dnj
yet genos has NO TILT display!!!


And PA4X has no Hawaiian guitar. Well, long as we’re going off topic, why not goof this thread up a bit more.

🤪


correct they all have many faults depending on what someone needs that is their selling point and baiting power to get people
to wait, want, and buy the next model..


Edited by Dnj (09/17/18 07:48 AM)

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