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#465028 - 01/22/19 02:59 PM Going to NAMM tomorrow!
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Who is going?
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#465031 - 01/22/19 03:07 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Frank, Keep us posted on the latest keyboard gear. Enjoy!

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#465051 - 01/22/19 09:48 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I'll be there all 4 days pretty much.

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#465052 - 01/23/19 12:45 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I am gonna be there on Friday.

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#465056 - 01/23/19 03:52 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I’ll be there until Saturday night, if anyone wants to meet for a drink or anything my cell (203) 395-2557
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#465057 - 01/23/19 06:02 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Stephenm52]
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Yamaha will be live streaming synths.

See attached schedule.

Yamaha Schedule


Regards,

Jerryghr


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#465058 - 01/23/19 07:24 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Have fun, Guys... and don't forget to share your thoughts on what seemed to be "on the cutting edge"... or most important to Gig Artists and old Song-writers.

----Dave

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#465060 - 01/23/19 08:02 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Enjoy the party...

Are you guys going for buiseness or personal pleasure?
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#465061 - 01/23/19 08:33 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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NO NEW ARRANGERS?

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#465062 - 01/23/19 08:47 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
NO NEW ARRANGERS?


offcourse not

WHo would go to Namm to see new arrangers?
Not more then a handfull people i guess

Musikmesse, thats arranger country
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#465066 - 01/23/19 09:52 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By Dnj
NO NEW ARRANGERS?


offcourse not

WHo would go to Namm to see new arrangers?
Not more then a handfull people i guess

Musikmesse, thats arranger country


I guess you're right...
and then there were none.. a slow death... so sad..


Edited by Dnj (01/23/19 09:52 AM)

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#465067 - 01/23/19 09:56 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Genos hasn't been out long enough to replace. Korg just did a major upgrade, plus PA1000 is still new. Ketron has new keyboards and modules. The sky isn't falling yet.
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#465071 - 01/23/19 10:17 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I like this part of Korg's info, specially the part I've bolded out. 👍

- Quote:

"As usual, Korg offers this operating system update at no charge for all existing users.
Since the beginning of our Pa-Series adventure we have always tried to provide great new features via system updates
(while some other companies deliver updates in a different keyboard).
A KORG Professional Arranger is designed to keep growing, increasing its value through the years.
"

- End quote.
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#465074 - 01/23/19 10:36 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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So if the physical and hardware related technology has peaked for awhile (quality of keybeds, available inputs/outputs, tilting touch screens for example), software updates are not a bad way to go providing they are bug free and there is sufficient on board storage for them. Beats shelling out a few thousand every couple years.

I do wonder if future arrangers will ever include (updatable) Bluetooth technology to access wireless speakers, especially for those like pa4x without them on board. Korg does have it on several controllers; Roland also and in FP series digital pianos.

My only fear there is people in crowd acquiring the same Bluetooth signal with their phones and playing music through my speakers. Don't know enough about the tech to know if this is absolutely preventable..fodder for another thread..


Edited by sparky589 (01/23/19 11:17 AM)
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#465081 - 01/23/19 12:23 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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The one feature I wish arranger keyboards would implement through a software update, is the ability to output individual parts through USB. Yamaha has the technology and is using it in their MODX keyboard line.

For recording purposes...that would be NIRVANA!!!

jingleman

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#465084 - 01/23/19 12:58 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Sparky, don't worry about the cell phones.. Different frequencies... and besides you need to confirm the connection... Most devices will only connect one at a time... And you need to be within 30 feet to have a connection signal..

Jingleman, You can do this via of your DAW... Set up your DAW mixer to receive each part/midi channel to individual tracks..
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#465090 - 01/23/19 09:24 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: jingleman]
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Jingleman is talking about audio..
Audio over USB works like a charm..

Not just for recording..
But also for playing software instruments..

Many high end instruments released in the last 2 years have this feature..
Kronos, Montage, MODX, RD2000 and many more..
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#465091 - 01/23/19 10:21 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I think the new major products for Namm all have been announced now

- yamaha vp88 and 73 stage piano’s
- akai road 88 master vst contr+ audio interface
- roland go piano88
- roland fp10 low end home piano
- kog kronos se
- korg krome( new)
- dexibell pro s3 and s7
- behringer oba synth

Also there is the major update for gadget . Itwig 3.0. And the big lsunch of camelot pro
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#465101 - 01/24/19 06:56 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
I think the new major products for Namm all have been announced now

- yamaha vp88 and 73 stage piano’s
- akai road 88 master vst contr+ audio interface
- roland go piano88
- roland fp10 low end home piano
- kog kronos se
- korg krome( new)
- dexibell pro s3 and s7
- behringer oba synth



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#465103 - 01/24/19 07:47 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Don't forget the Casio CDP-S350.


Edited by BradgeMusicTube (01/24/19 07:47 AM)
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#465108 - 01/24/19 08:41 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: BradgeMusicTube]
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Originally Posted By BradgeMusicTube
Don't forget the Casio CDP-S350.


Makes me wonder how i could forget all about Casio

There is also another still unanounced high class product comming from casio, i expect a px-5s follow up in a totally new design.. all we saw was big black knob and small blie lights
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#465109 - 01/24/19 08:45 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I will just keep posting the news here.. for those at home



A brand new audio interface from NI
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#465110 - 01/24/19 08:48 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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UVI FM suite

High end vst synth,
Which shows FM is still hot



UVI is known for its very high quallity virtual analogue synths
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#465111 - 01/24/19 08:51 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Here it is

Casio PX-s..



Its available as a px-1000s and an px-3000s

Here a video of the px-1000s



Edited by Bachus (01/24/19 08:54 AM)
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#465113 - 01/24/19 08:57 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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The new Yamaha cp 88 and cp 73 stage piano’s
Half a Yamaha, half a Nord at half the price

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#465114 - 01/24/19 08:59 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Moog is really pushing things,
Their 3rd new product in less then a year

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#465115 - 01/24/19 09:00 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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For the better Namm feeling... a lunchbreak..
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#465116 - 01/24/19 09:02 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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NI komplete komtrol M32




Small..
But new..
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#465117 - 01/24/19 09:04 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Slate Raven..
Big touchscreen mixing

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#465118 - 01/24/19 09:07 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Akai Force
A stand alone unit..
And a reason why the youth will never look at arranger modules..
This is what they want and dream about

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#465119 - 01/24/19 09:09 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Roland fp-10



Will be presented at Namm, but don’t expect it to be in many namm reports
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#465120 - 01/24/19 09:15 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
Genos hasn't been out long enough to replace. Korg just did a major upgrade, plus PA1000 is still new. Ketron has new keyboards and modules. The sky isn't falling yet.



all possibly true don but,......... on the other hand hope I am wrong they all can be looking in another direction then we are used to vs the old school style of arrangers to draw in the younger masses and increase profits for the future its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$

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#465121 - 01/24/19 09:16 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Roland fp-10



Will be presented at Namm, but don’t expect it to be in many namm reports


just another piano....but what can he do with an arranger kb?........

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#465123 - 01/24/19 09:33 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Roli Cypher 2 Expander



Fun to see Roli combining toys with their untuitive controllers
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#465128 - 01/24/19 10:56 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Behringer keeps cloning
Probably untill they have cloned all vintage synths
And with every next one they add more new fresh features

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#465129 - 01/24/19 12:00 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I was hoping that Hammond would update the SK1 with a new/improved model that took some of the stuff from their newest flagship and put some of that into a revised SK1 (I though it would be called SK1-Mark II)!

Also was hoping that DSI would have a whole new synth, as I like what they are doing in recent years. Yeah, even though Genos is my primary keyboard, I'm an organ and synth geek since the 1970s-1980s! :-)

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#465131 - 01/24/19 12:22 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: jimlaing]
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Originally Posted By jimlaing
I was hoping that Hammond would update the SK1 with a new/improved model that took some of the stuff from their newest flagship and put some of that into a revised SK1 (I though it would be called SK1-Mark II)!

Also was hoping that DSI would have a whole new synth, as I like what they are doing in recent years. Yeah, even though Genos is my primary keyboard, I'm an organ and synth geek since the 1970s-1980s! :-)

Jim


Dave Smith is still all about the prophet X released late last year...

Arturia however, is walking a new path with the micro geak




Arturia pushes like 3 synths or more every year
Dave smith does one new synth every 2 years

And i think the difference in quallity is quite obvious


Altoigh i think arturia is creating some great hardware
Like this new audio interface
Audiofuse studio



Edited by Bachus (01/24/19 12:41 PM)
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#465132 - 01/24/19 01:36 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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This is the Roland boot..



I dont think this is the same Roland that used to make awesome arrangers..
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#465133 - 01/24/19 02:52 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Roland seems to be coasting along in neutral. They need to put it in gear and put on the gas or they'll continue to eat a lot of dust from the likes of Yamaha, Korg and yes Casio too as well.

By the way the new Casio Privia PX-s1000/s3000 appear to be arrangers from what I've read. They have hundreds of "rhythms" to play along with but I'm not sure if there are variations, intro's or endings. Maybe it would be better to call it a semi-arranger? Too soon to tell but hopefully Casio will clarify more on how the auto-accompaniment works.

All the best,

Mike
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#465150 - 01/25/19 12:01 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: keybplayer]
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Originally Posted By keybplayer
Roland seems to be coasting along in neutral. They need to put it in gear and put on the gas or they'll continue to eat a lot of dust from the likes of Yamaha, Korg and yes Casio too as well.

By the way the new Casio Privia PX-s1000/s3000 appear to be arrangers from what I've read. They have hundreds of "rhythms" to play along with but I'm not sure if there are variations, intro's or endings. Maybe it would be better to call it a semi-arranger? Too soon to tell but hopefully Casio will clarify more on how the auto-accompaniment works.

All the best,

Mike


The 3000 is an arranger with 200 rythms and 700 sounds comes at €900
The 1000 is just a plane piano with 18 sounds and comes at €700

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#465151 - 01/25/19 12:04 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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The akai mpk road, designed for controlling VSTs



This might be in my near future
Price expected around 800 bucks
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#465152 - 01/25/19 01:13 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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I am going to NAMM tomorrow. I will make sure to drop into the Kurzweil booth as they have 2 new arranger keyboards that I haven't heard anyone mention. They are the KP300X and the KP150. http://kurzweil.com/product/kp300x/

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#465153 - 01/25/19 02:19 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Dexibel upgrades its Vivo S3 and S7 to a pro version..
I don't see many changes..
Its still the same sound engine as all their other stage piano's so far..

(Only S9 has a 2nd engine for organs)
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#465154 - 01/25/19 02:31 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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Lots of software upgrades.. both for softsynths, ipad apps, but also for hardware instruments..




This is my favorite piece of software ever,..

Omnisphere/trillian/keyscape.. the later can be used inside Omnisphere
Now there is hardware support for more instruemnts, like the nord stage 3


Many hardware companies keep adding new features..and content for years after the release of their instruments... actually the only high end pro instrument where we haven't really seen this yt is the Yamaha Genos.

Kurzweil for instance over time have changed the forte from a stage piano into a fullfledged synth workstation. Adding an FM engine for free in their latest update..



Edited by Bachus (01/25/19 02:39 AM)
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#465157 - 01/25/19 03:56 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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The technics brand name is back...

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#465171 - 01/25/19 10:16 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Look for a guitar playing kid from Lexington named Ben Lacy. Think Chet Atkins on acid. He sometimes just shows up at NAMM, starts playing and has 5 or more exhibitors throwing money at him to work their booths. He works Ampeg a lot, since his "one man" technique includes a very aggressive consecutive bass line.

He's a big guy with long red hair, and he generally has a spittoon (ugh)beside him, which he uses frequently. When playing, he draws as big a crowd as Victor Wooten.

Been wanting to get Rory and Ben together.

He's all over the net...just look him up. Proof that there's no shortage of really talented kids to replace us old timers.

I've used Ben to play recordings when I used to do it and I "ain't no slouch".That's how good he is.


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#465174 - 01/25/19 10:37 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
The technics brand name is back...



I still have my technics turn table circa 1973 ... haven't used it in many years, but I do still use the Pioneer receiver/amplifier that was part of my component stereo set ...
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#465198 - 01/26/19 01:04 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By keybplayer
Roland seems to be coasting along in neutral. They need to put it in gear and put on the gas or they'll continue to eat a lot of dust from the likes of Yamaha, Korg and yes Casio too as well.

By the way the new Casio Privia PX-s1000/s3000 appear to be arrangers from what I've read. They have hundreds of "rhythms" to play along with but I'm not sure if there are variations, intro's or endings. Maybe it would be better to call it a semi-arranger? Too soon to tell but hopefully Casio will clarify more on how the auto-accompaniment works.

All the best,

Mike


The 3000 is an arranger with 200 rythms and 700 sounds comes at €900
The 1000 is just a plane piano with 18 sounds and comes at €700




Does the 3000 have the new AIX soundchip?
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#465199 - 01/26/19 01:32 AM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By guitpic1
Originally Posted By Bachus
Originally Posted By keybplayer
Roland seems to be coasting along in neutral. They need to put it in gear and put on the gas or they'll continue to eat a lot of dust from the likes of Yamaha, Korg and yes Casio too as well.

By the way the new Casio Privia PX-s1000/s3000 appear to be arrangers from what I've read. They have hundreds of "rhythms" to play along with but I'm not sure if there are variations, intro's or endings. Maybe it would be better to call it a semi-arranger? Too soon to tell but hopefully Casio will clarify more on how the auto-accompaniment works.

All the best,

Mike


The 3000 is an arranger with 200 rythms and 700 sounds comes at €900
The 1000 is just a plane piano with 18 sounds and comes at €700




Does the 3000 have the new AIX soundchip?


it uses AIR sounds... thats the piano varriant of AIX
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#465254 - 01/26/19 02:08 PM Re: Going to NAMM tomorrow! [Re: frankieve]
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New krk rokit gen 4..
Very affordable high quallity..
Perfect for the home studio..

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