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#475057 - 08/29/19 07:53 AM Who uses Band in the Box?
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I'm thinking of getting band in the box. I know nothing about it and have some questions. I use a program called noteworthy. It takes midi music and displays it so I can have
the written music. It does not show you the chords to use. I see there are different prices out there from 99 up to 500. Since I am just thinking of buying I would assume I do not need the higher price ones. I have watched Youtube. They say you can load MP3 and wave into it but does not mention midi.
Can anyone that uses it give me a brief run down on what it does and how hard it is to use. Just getting the chords for a song would be worth it. Thanks to anyone that responds to this. RC

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#475060 - 08/29/19 09:10 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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Hi
I use BIAB to create lead sheets from a midi . A bit of a learning curve but very useful. Attached is a zipped file with the Original Key and the Original Key transposed to C.
I have just the basic BIAB on a Mac, also works well on a PC

Ron


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#475061 - 08/29/19 10:05 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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... what's "a midi?"
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#475062 - 08/29/19 10:17 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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Hi RC:

I don't use BIAB but I sometimes hire a demo singer/producer who employs it with other tricks of the trade to create demos of my original songs for me to use in "pitching" them to publishers, artists, labels, etc.

He squeezes so many things from that "package" to enhance his work and make the songs sound as though they had come from a big name studio... and naturally, his vocals add a great deal to the package, mixing in some great harmonies from other software or firmware compatible with BIAB.

Good luck with whatever version you choose... and yes, I'm told there is a pretty steep learning curve... but it can be worth it if you have the drive and patience to master it.

Then of course, Arranger KB's are becoming so sophisticated, you may want to "stay the course" and consider an arranger. Most will tell you the chord you are playing, etc.

Good luck, no matter your choice.

----Dave Rice

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#475066 - 08/29/19 10:41 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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Uncle Dave, I have a suspicion you know what a midi is. Try it you'll like it.
Dave Rice. I have a pa4x. I want to use BIAB to enhance the music that's being produced with the Pa4x.if that's what it does. I use the sequencer on a lot of songs. I try to keep the background as close to the original songs as I can.

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#475067 - 08/29/19 10:52 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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He knows what a midi FILE is. Midi is not a noun is what he's trying to say.
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#475068 - 08/29/19 11:02 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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RC - I have been using BIAB since the 80's... it is an amazing program! Yes, you can load midi files into BIAB and see the individual parts on manuscript and print them if you desire. Easily transpose from original to any key.

The MIDI portion relies on your keyboard or sound module to create the backing tracks - or you can use a PC-based virtual synth that is included with BIAB to create the audio. A good while back they implemented "Real Tracks" which are recordings of studio players comping (or soloing) over chord changes. The "Real Tracks" are organized by style and BIAB assembles the chord audio snippets into the changes you enter (based on style) and creates the backing for you. Works the same way when generating backings via MIDI - just without any studio audio.

The prices do vary based on the content of the package you buy. The most expensive version of BIAB (Audiofile version I believe it is called) includes all WAV recordings for the hundreds and hundreds of "Real Tracks". The lower priced versions employ MP3 versions of the audio recordings.

BIAB is an amazing tool which is probably a mandatory tool for all the jazz students at Berklee and North Texas jazz programs. Sure makes it fun and easy to work up any tune and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Hope that helps...there are many tutorials available and PG Music has a great forum where they answer questions on the features included.

PS - if you use the PA4X, it is not hard using BIAB to generate a complimentary set of accompaniment tracks - just enter the exact tempo you use on PA4X, select the BIAB style that would most closely match the PA4X style, enter the chords you will be using on PA4X, and generate the backing...you can then save off the individual tracks from BIAB and use just one or more to augment the PA4X backings....

Have fun!


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#475069 - 08/29/19 11:07 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: saxxman]
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From WIKI:

MIDI (/ˈmɪdi/; short for Musical Instrument Digital Interface) is a technical standard that describes a communications protocol, digital interface, and electrical connectors that connect a wide variety of electronic musical instruments, computers, and related audio devices for playing, editing and recording music.
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#475070 - 08/29/19 11:27 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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I have used BIAB since days of floppy's and version 6.0. AS to simplicity, All you have to do is type in the chord changes and select the style to create a simple backing track. For complexity, the manual is only 518 pages. I still don't know how to use the more advanced features. It is a huge and very powerful program. The difference in packages is primarily the number and variety of real tracks in the package. The program also comes with a separate DAW called Real Band.

One of the biggest features is the website at pgmusic.com. It has a huge user base on the forum with the author of the program getting involved in answering some of the more complex features. Also they offer a no questions 30 day money back guarantee.

I personally can't imagine having to enter in every part of a basic arrangement to create a simple track!
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#475071 - 08/29/19 11:48 AM Re: Who uses Band in the Box? [Re: RC]
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Originally Posted By RC
I'm thinking of getting band in the box. I know nothing about it and have some questions. I use a program called noteworthy. It takes midi music and displays it so I can have
the written music. It does not show you the chords to use. RC

Notation Composer does an excellent job in converting an SMF to notation - much better than BIAB and I have used BIAB since its beginning. Some neat online tools here https://solmire.com/chordfinder/
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