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#476142 - 09/17/19 09:08 AM Maybe time for a change
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
E-A7

Love/Hate is driving me crazy..
I chose the E-A7 over my BK9, for features like the sampling, pads,
and a better user interface.
Thus given up my 16 track seq, SN sounds, better keys and more of them..

There is one thing that annoys me about the E-A7 that may force me to
rethink my keyboard choice.

In fact I may go back to just using my G70.

Maybe get another BK9, and sell the E-A7..

What is the annoying thing.... No dedicated manual bass..
Most of the time I play manual bass, and as I do on my G70 ,
I just play the drums and mute all other parts.
Without a manual bass button, when I play an intro or ending,
the bass drops off becaus it is a lower voice,
not a manual bass voice. No problem with the G70 or BK9..

At this stage (not working as many gigs) I am so ready to use the G70,
for the things it does that the other two do not.

I cannot think of a way to get around this problem without using another
upper part as a bass, losing my piano part ( not acceptable).
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#476143 - 09/17/19 09:17 AM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
E-A7

Love/Hate is driving me crazy..
I chose the E-A7 over my BK9, for features like the sampling, pads,
and a better user interface.
Thus given up my 16 track seq, SN sounds, better keys and more of them..

There is one thing that annoys me about the E-A7 that may force me to
rethink my keyboard choice.

In fact I may go back to just using my G70.

Maybe get another BK9, and sell the E-A7..

What is the annoying thing.... No dedicated manual bass..
Most of the time I play manual bass, and as I do on my G70 ,
I just play the drums and mute all other parts.
Without a manual bass button, when I play an intro or ending,
the bass drops off becaus it is a lower voice,
not a manual bass voice. No problem with the G70 or BK9..

At this stage (not working as many gigs) I am so ready to use the G70,
for the things it does that the other two do not.

I cannot think of a way to get around this problem without using another
upper part as a bass, losing my piano part ( not acceptable).


coffee

I guess I am getting a phone call soon... cool2

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#476146 - 09/17/19 09:33 AM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
E-A7

Love/Hate is driving me crazy..
I chose the E-A7 over my BK9, for features like the sampling, pads,
and a better user interface.
Thus given up my 16 track seq, SN sounds, better keys and more of them..

There is one thing that annoys me about the E-A7 that may force me to
rethink my keyboard choice.

In fact I may go back to just using my G70.

Maybe get another BK9, and sell the E-A7..

What is the annoying thing.... No dedicated manual bass..
Most of the time I play manual bass, and as I do on my G70 ,
I just play the drums and mute all other parts.
Without a manual bass button, when I play an intro or ending,
the bass drops off becaus it is a lower voice,
not a manual bass voice. No problem with the G70 or BK9..

At this stage (not working as many gigs) I am so ready to use the G70,
for the things it does that the other two do not.

I cannot think of a way to get around this problem without using another
upper part as a bass, losing my piano part ( not acceptable).


coffee

I guess I am getting a phone call soon... cool2



Answer your phone grin
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#476147 - 09/17/19 09:53 AM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Fran Carango]
Harold123 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/10
Posts: 440
Loc: Harrisville Pa USA
Check with Ted...He has a excellent BK-9 with a whole bunch of stuff with it...Harold

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#476148 - 09/17/19 10:04 AM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Harold123]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By Harold123
Check with Ted...He has a excellent BK-9 with a whole bunch of stuff with it...Harold


Why doesn't Ted like the EA7?

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#476156 - 09/17/19 12:24 PM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Fran Carango]
TedS Offline
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Registered: 04/28/06
Posts: 836
Loc: North Texas, USA
Haha I've barely scratched the surface of the BK-9! Actually I'm still waiting for a suitable monitor system. Believe it or not this is my first "pro" board without speakers.

I will say, the key feel is leagues better than my E-50, and about on par with the Tyros 5. Sounds are generally excellent through headphones. I'm disappointed though that my user styles seem to need a lot of tweaking (even after using them on a BK-7m!) I'm not an expert when it comes to DSP and effects; I suspect that's what they need most. Another way to tackle this problem would be to re-create them starting with styles that are native to the BK-9.

I miss the big screen of the Tyros. I've just begun messing around with iPad connections and apps to create and manage registrations. Also looking for an iPad-based solution to display music, especially if it can also play MIDI files, with a "follow the bouncing ball" real-time score display.

The E-A7 looks bewildering... I'm surprised Fran thinks the UI is better than the BK-9. I had a BK-5 briefly, and compared to the Prelude/GW-8, controls are laid out pretty thoughtfully for a real-time arranger. Not giving up my E-50 just yet though... :-)

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#476161 - 09/17/19 01:26 PM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Fran Carango]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Ted when I mention a better interface I am also referring to dedicated buttons beside user tone areas etc. The cursor arrows on the BK9 also annoy me grin
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#476170 - 09/17/19 04:05 PM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Fran Carango]
Bill Lewis Offline
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2447
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
Ted
Once you get the hang of it the Bk9 is very editable and not hard at all. I have also found that editing the OnBoard Styles seems to sound better than editing older imported ones but I don't know why. Moved my BK7M Styles right over with no problem. Wish I still had the BK7M for my DP.
I also have those Roland apps but never bother using them as I know my way around now. Haredest thing was doing the OT preformances and now I think "What was so hard in the beginnig" I do 4 for every Style.
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#476174 - 09/17/19 04:51 PM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: TedS]
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 766
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By TedS

The E-A7 looks bewildering... I'm surprised Fran thinks the UI is better than the BK-9. I had a BK-5 briefly, and compared to the Prelude/GW-8, controls are laid out pretty thoughtfully for a real-time arranger. Not giving up my E-50 just yet though... :-)


Although it does indeed look difficult, E-A7 has the best interface of any arranger I've used and I've had several. If Roland would put out a new E-A7-like arranger with a large touch screen and jog wheel, they would have a winner, although I might not switch since I have so much time invested in my PA900 now.

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#476176 - 09/17/19 05:34 PM Re: Maybe time for a change [Re: Fran Carango]
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Fran,
Isn’t it a case of what works for you. If it’s missing such an important function that you use, no wonder it’s frustrating.
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