What are most KN7000 users saving to the sd card ? midis , registrations , style etc...?

Is everyone transferring from the computer to the SD card via USB ?

can you copy info onto a SD card without using a computer ?


Just help me out a little . I am trying to catch up . dano

hi danno
you can copy from floppy onto sd
1 put floppy in

2 press sd button
3 press sd tools
4 press copy from disk .

this should load all the files on the floppy to the sd card, up to 20 i think

good luck
jan

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Hi Dan,

"What are most KN7000 users saving to the sd card ? midis , registrations , style etc...?"

I'm copying song setups with panel memories, sound edits, and styles for songs. I don't play with midi's.

I've noticed that where KN5000 sequences have used Technichord the chord stuff is not there and you just get a solo part without technichord. So, something has changed with the KN7000 in that regard.

"Is everyone transferring from the computer to the SD card via USB ? "

I think everyone but me. . . . I can't get the Song Manager to work with my KN5000 hard disk backup. I would if I could.

"can you copy info onto a SD card without using a computer ?"

Yes, if you copy from a floppy.

Hi Bob,

Maybe your KN5000 copy problem with technichords is because of the way T.Chord info is handled. On the KN3000 tehnichord info is recorded with only one note on the channel and the software plays all the notes as the song is played. However on my KN6000 all tecnichord notes are recorded as the song is sequenced and thus all notes would be passed on to the SD card.

Regards,

Larry
larry.gosmeyer@verizon.net

Hi Larry, That could very well be the case. And, if it is, the song I had on the 20 for 1 stuff (Stardust) must have sounded awful on the KN6000 because I had used Technichord almost extensively in that song. It's awful on the KN7000.

To all of the above ideas I would like to add one that I find very useful. I have installed the Initial Data Disk onto the SD card. That way when I want to bring everything back to factory out of the box condition I can do it in a flash. No more hunting for that blankety blank Initial data disk. I know I put that darn thing in a safe place so I can find it when I need it. The problem is I can't remember where that was. One time I lost that little hunk of plastic for a little over three months when I had my 5000. Ruthie came across it when she cleaned out the drawer where she determined my underware should reside. Why I chose that as a safe place for my Initial Disk is beyond me. Evidentially my judgement of a safe place to put it, was flawed. Maybe I thought the drawer for my shorts were something I went into every day therefore it would be a constant reminder of where I stached my disk. Maybe the shorts drawer turned out to remind me I could be a little short in the brains department. Feel free to comment, I don't mind. In any avent I then loaded that crazy disk onto my harddisk in the five. I did the same in the sixty five and the first thing I did was load it onto the SD card in the seven.

Bob just my observation of the last line in your post. Quote: "If you copy from a floppy".

I think your a poet and don't know it. But very good ideas.

Grandpa Doug

Excellent feedback . Thank you . dano

I'm playing along with mp3s on the card - real orchestras, and sequencing along with them.

Alec, that sounds very interesting! It could be an unlimited source of backup rhythms, I suppose, but there are probably many other uses that will pop up. Certainly good practice for any keyboard player to play along with an orchestra. What a novel idea! Are you gonna let us in on the secret?

I just use mine like I used the hard disk on my KN6000 - to store modified styles, sounds and some of my favourite styles from earlier KNs. I also store complete Panel/memory/etc setups for individual songs or tunes.
I'm not really interested in putting mp3 or midi files on the card. If I want to play along with an mp3 or other audio, I just play the mp3 file or CD on my laptop, connect up the USB link and Voila! .....
Just another approach but probably not very practical for gigging, due to extra 'gear'

I have tried playing with midi files in the past and found them to be too confining. I don't want to be limited to a specific way to play a song. I like the freedom to add a phrase or loop back as the whim strikes me. I doubt that I will ever play with MP3's. I seldom play a song the same way twice.

I never play with midi files either for the same reason, prefering to convert them to styles that mirror each individual song arrangement so I can play left hand and control everything.

But mp3s are in a completely different ball park altogether. In exchange for giving up left hand control you get the real orchestral backing, for instance you play along with the true Nelson Riddle arrangement with real strings and real brass stabs. It is surprising how good the soloist voices are in combination with a real orchestral backing. So if you never try it you won't know what your missing. There is no keyboard on earth now or in the foreseeable future that can produce a sound like this. Not for every song maybe, but a very interesting and promising alternative.

No secret, Bud, try the free downloads at http://www.singingstation.com/

Dano,

It usually takes me a while to catch up with what everyone else is doing, but so far this is how I'm using the SD card: I like to prepare my songs in advance and save all my settings in panel memories. These I save to the SD card using the Performance settings. On the KN6000 I had these stored on floppies, and the first thing I did on the KN7000 was to copy each floppy to the SD card. As I have gone through my songs I have renamed files to more meaningful long file names.

As my computer is in a different room I have not yet tried linking the KN7000 to the computer, but I did purchase an SD card reader (not lucky enough to get one included like our UK friends!). I regularly backup my SD card to the computer using the SD card reader. Last week I purchased a 128MB SD card (Sandisk) and copied the backup of my 8MB card to the 128MB card. Piece of cake.

I do not use midi files on the KN7000 except to listen to what they sound like, and I do that just with by copying the midi file to a floppy. Now I have a 128MB card I'm going to try Alec's suggestion of playing along to an MP3 - that should be awesome, and should raise even more eyebrows in the audience. Maybe a piece with some good singing, provided the singing doesn't detract too much from my playing.

Mike

Thanks Mike . Good info .


MP3's may replace midi sequences . dano

I did have the same thought myself because as storage space and bandwidth get cheaper and bigger mp3 has one advantage - the sound is less dependant on the listeners equipment. If the listener does not have your keyboard, or if the listener just has a very basic gm sound chip, your performance is either unplayable or out of your control in terms of the gm sounds. Whereas with mp3, even within its limits of sound compression, your performance is preserved much better than a midi file.

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MP3's may replace midi sequences.

I don't hope so. I always learned something form the (demo)sequences. e.g. sound edit, composer and so on. And throug easy edit the played notes.

rgds.
Wim

Wim, Midi sequences are not the same as the sequences you create using Easy Record or Real time Record on the KN....

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