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#478380 - 10/20/19 01:30 PM
Re: SX700 Sent to me by Donny, it’s a good one.
[Re: Kabinopus]
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Registered: 09/29/05
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What I mean is that I’ve just listened to this demo again (SX700) and I have no certain recollection of what I’ve just heard. As demonstrations is a sort of commercial, some “hooks”, catching things would be natural to have. Not just proper playing. My two cents.
I agree, but might that just be the nature of 'arranger' playing, or at least a requirement of STYLE CREATION where the style has to be at least somewhat generic so as to suit many songs. The "hooks" and "catching things" to which you refer might sound great on some tunes and totally screw up others. Not to sound like an arranger snob but that's why I only play(ed) organ on gigs (occasionally Rhodes or piano). My "hooks" and "catching things" may be (and probably are) inferior to the arranger's but at least it's the result of a decision I made and not the computer or style creator. Again, where VOCALS are the featured part of a performance, skillful use of an arranger keyboard can be totally acceptable (to all but musicians in the audience ), but if I'M in the audience, you can bet I'm there to see the VOCALIST. Please, no 'hate' responses, I love (well maybe LIKE) arrangers for other functions ie. song writing, testing possible approaches to (live) arrangements, developing ideas for an instrumental part in an arrangement, etc. And of course, we can all see their value for OMB's. Since the overwhelming popularity of DJ's, audiences have shown that they don't care where the music is coming from. Trust me, this whole arranger/non-arranger thing is strictly among musicians. JMO. chas
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#478382 - 10/20/19 02:40 PM
Re: SX700 Sent to me by Donny, it’s a good one.
[Re: rikkisbears]
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Registered: 03/22/17
Posts: 449
Loc: Mountain Home, AR
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Must say both of these demos where very nice.
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#478383 - 10/20/19 03:09 PM
Re: SX700 Sent to me by Donny, it’s a good one.
[Re: rikkisbears]
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Registered: 11/11/04
Posts: 708
Loc: Russia
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I see that I can be unfair (not for the first time); I guess it happens like this: after some business during the day, meeting with people, some driving and shopping, me/someone comes home late in the evening, without making a proper dinner me/someone reads a forum or watches YouTube, expecting to be entertained, and somehow it doesn't compensate for not sleeping enough last night, and inevitably every piece of information (and music is one as well) easily irritates. So after keeping non-critical attitude during the day, the accumulated criticism finds its way and form and release itself "randomly" in the evening.
It can work other way as well, combining a process of evaluation with something pleasant, like tasty food, snacks and coffee, the same object is likely to be evaluated quite favorably.
I guess it's safer not to invest all (emotional) energy into one object; if we're talking about instruments, instead of looking for a perfect arranger, it's more gratifying to combine different directions, such as arrangers, workstations, digital pianos, ets. Changing activities surely can work as well.
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