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#480130 - 11/08/19 01:01 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: bruno123]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By bruno123
Donny, nice post. Now I would like to see you take your idea, and my idea and come up with a third idea, bringing both of us up a few notches.

Nobody has it all, especially me, John C.


Thanx John...what I always did was think of the arranger as my band of which in pre arranger days in the 60s,70's, 80,s I played keyboard in for many many years, clubs, on tour, cruise ships, private affairs etc,...most times with 6 pieces including a lead vocalist. So when I started to go solo and get my OMB act together I wanted a way to keep the sound of the 6pc band but do it alone as I saw what was happening in the music business as computers evolved, DJ's started to appear everywhere, etc,...that said most times my OTS sounds
are including 2 sounds per OTS to switch to giving me a total of 8.. in this family order structure depending on song....
1- Pianos/EPianos, Accordion, 2- Growl Sax/Tenor,Trumpet, Guitars,
3-Organs/Strings/Miller saxes sound ensemble, 4-Brass.
I might add others depending on song but the family of sounds is basically always the same throughout the song progression,
as it was in the band I played in.
This is my BASE foundation set of OTS sounds for almost any song using ONE Reg per song. now that can be doubled easily by using the Multi registration button method only thing that prevents me from doing it that way is always having to remember too much info on what all those reg buts have setup inside them on the fly...where as my way described I can just remember my band members next to me that pretty much stay the same as in a real band.....not saying the other way is wrong and i will certainly try it for sure to see if it works for me better or not to achieve the same outcome when playing a song.
I remain curious...

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#480136 - 11/08/19 01:30 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: Dnj]
mdorantes Offline
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Additional information on Registrations

Most of the time I use in the Genos the first 5 registrations for one song, and the other 5 for a different song.
BUT, sometimes, in certain songs that I want to be more complex, I use all 10 for one song, or use all 8 on the PSR SX900, remember that we have an unlimited number of registration banks...so, in this case, is a little more polished arrangement, sometimes, a local colleague figure that I was using a midi file, and I was not....

I will upload a registration bank in the other forum.

Manuel
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#480145 - 11/08/19 02:27 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: Dnj]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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I use one Registration Bank per song. BUT, I start with a Registration that has 2/4 Country on Reg. 2, A Waltz on 3, a slow 4/4 on 4, a Jazz shuffle on 5, a 6/8 Slow Rock on 6, a Latin on 7 and a Rock n Roll on 8. In addition I put my most used sounds on each. In other words, two is a Pedal Steel, 3 in a Fiddle, 4 is a Piano, 5 is a Jazz Guitar, 6 is a Sax, 7 is a Harmonica, 8 is a Strat guitar.
THEN, I set the Freeze function so that when it is on, the only thing that changes when I push a Reg button is the Sound. Not the style, not anything but the sound.
So, say I have the setup for Mustang Sally on one. It is set to pull up whatever sound I like, like Organ, plus the appropriate style for that song. Then I hit the Freeze button, and have the eight sounds to use on the song.
I use the same seven extra sounds on every Registration. In addition to having Mustang Sally ready, with which I can use any of those (or any of the OTS associated with each of the other pads) but I can end Mustang, take the Freeze off, press number 6 for example and be playing a Slow Rock ballad in one second or less.
I save all the Registrations with Syncro Start on.
In conclusion, for each of my songs, one to a Registration, I have eight sounds, each with their own set of OTS, at my disposal, PLUS the seven other go-to song setups.
By saving one main song to its own Registration Bank, the Banks are automatically saved in Alphabetical order, by song title, or whatever you want to name them.
You can press both Reg Select buttons at the same time to see your list of Banks (songs).
Find the song you want, select it, press button one with the Freeze Off, then put the Freeze on and play the song, using all the other buttons to change sounds. The process quickly becomes automatic.
That's just the I do it, and thought it might help someone. Even Donny. HEE HEE!
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#480147 - 11/08/19 02:45 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: Dnj]
Dnj Offline
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Don an interesting way to use reg....
I don't really need help but rather want to explore other options available to me... Thanks for the explanation..

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#480160 - 11/08/19 06:23 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: girljam]
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Originally Posted By girljam

Jumping from the PSR 910 to the 970 was a big jump, and now adding in more technology, its very exciting stuff! I could literally spend ALL DAY with it!

Play on!!!



It is exciting all the new stuff. Gather you must still be working, there were never enough hours in the day.
Me, I spend way too much time time on my technology, lucky for me hubby has become a PlayStation addict, so he doesn’t notice. Haha
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#480161 - 11/08/19 06:59 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: mdorantes]
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Originally Posted By mdorantes

I will upload a registration bank in the other forum.

Manuel


Thank you Manuel.
The mp3 sounds brilliant.
Going to try registrations shortly.
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#480165 - 11/08/19 09:52 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: rikkisbears]
mdorantes Offline
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The usage of the keyboard and Registrations is going to be a little different for people that sing like our friends DonM, Donny, etc....

And for the few of us that are only instrumental music, we most likely are to use more sounds for the verses, chorus, verse, etc....since those are our "lead" voices....is also a way to maintain interesting the song,
it gives some dynamics to the song, among other ways like changing style variations, modulation of keys, etc.

This is a common thing to do as an organist....and I just translated it to the keyboard, only that now the keyboards allow us to sort of becoming sort of a musical genre "chameleon".....

If playing a Bing band song, you can assign a solo instrument to play the verse (Clarinet as an example), a woodwind or brass ensamble for chorus, a piano to get back to the Verse, or trombone, etc....
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#480166 - 11/08/19 09:55 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: Dnj]
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
When Manuel speaks, LISTEN to him. He is THE Yamaha man! smile
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#480177 - 11/09/19 02:23 AM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: Dnj]
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I think both of you have shared a wealth of knowledge. Thank you both.

Bernie
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#480256 - 11/09/19 03:19 PM Re: Yamaha using Registrations vs OTS .. [Re: Dnj]
mdorantes Offline
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I uploaded some registrations (the other forum)....

One for the SX900 (That one is in my first opening subjet) along with a MP3 that I recorded with that registration for that song....

And, if you scroll down go to the bottom of the page, you will find my Genos "generic" registrations and some explanation.

I hope that helps...

Manuel

Manuel
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