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#481581 - 11/23/19 07:07 AM Genos info wanted
Fran Carango Offline
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I have read through the owners manual and the reference manual.

I would be interested in some clarification, or verification. smile

Can you layer 4 sounds.. I know there are 3 right and 1 left, but in non split , can the left sound be layered with the 3 right? It also appears that sustain is not possible for the left sound.. Is that correct?

It also appears that chords do not appear in SMF's unless they are embedded . Is this true?

Can it read karaoke files (CDG and MP3 contained in Zip folders) Or do you have to convert to a Yamaha format?

How large of a flash drive can the Genos read ?

Is it possible to read a USB drive containing for example 30,000 karaoke files in a single folder, and use a
search feature to locate a specific song?

There is no sampler? Is this correct..? Can you import a wave file sample... for a tone, not a pad?


Would be interested in the same points with the SX900..
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#481589 - 11/23/19 07:32 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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["Fran,..I have read through the owners manual and the reference manual."]

I would assume the Roland G70 does all this?
and you want to A/B the specs with Genos to stir the pot.
Couldn't you find most of these answers in the manual since you read thru them?


Edited by Dnj (11/23/19 07:32 AM)

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#481591 - 11/23/19 07:45 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
I have read through the owners manual and the reference manual.

I would be interested in some clarification, or verification. smile

Can you layer 4 sounds.. I know there are 3 right and 1 left,
No it cant

but in non split , can the left sound be layered with the 3 right? It also appears that sustain is not possible for the left sound.. Is that correct?
It is possible to select sustain for left ( press Direct acces and push the foot pedal)

It also appears that chords do not appear in SMF's unless they are embedded . Is this true?

Can it read karaoke files (CDG and MP3 contained in Zip folders) Or do you have to convert to a Yamaha format?

[i]Genos dont read zip files , unpack them in a folder you can[/i]

How large of a flash drive can the Genos read ? No idea

Is it possible to read a USB drive containing for example 30,000 karaoke files in a single folder, and use a
search feature to locate a specific song?

There is no sampler? Is this correct..? Yes
Can you import a wave file sample... for a tone, not a pad? With YEM you can do this


Would be interested in the same points with the SX900.. = the same
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#481592 - 11/23/19 07:47 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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shocked

Just because a manual says it can or can't.. does not make it a fact.. I am asking for clarification.

Not comparing anything to the G70.. Anyone knows the G70 has no sampler, or audio player.. smile
But it can layer 6 sounds grin

Now .. maybe I could compare the Genos specs with the E-A7 cool
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#481599 - 11/23/19 08:19 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
DonM Offline
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The folder size limit is 2,500.
Nobody has the chords embedded in midi files except Roland.
You can sustain LH.
There are those that report using 256 USB with no problem.
Plays CDG files perfectly. Not zipped of course.
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#481602 - 11/23/19 08:24 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By DonM
The folder size limit is 2,500.
Nobody has the chords embedded in midi files except Roland.
You can sustain LH.
There are those that report using 256 USB with no problem.
Plays CDG files perfectly. Not zipped of course.


Fran getting a Genos would definitely be the biggest reveal of the year...
Hurry

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#481604 - 11/23/19 08:35 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Dnj]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj


Fran getting a Genos


Never gonna happen.
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#481609 - 11/23/19 09:21 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Dnj]
Harold123 Offline
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No need to happen...Fran is good with what He has...My thaughts with the G-70 over the years when performing alot was the weight for smaller Gigs...Fran like Myself is little older now and weight in most things in our life We have to adjust to. I'm even trying to loose weight to help!...Harold

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#481611 - 11/23/19 09:28 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Rikki as Fran explained to everyone regarding weight gigging with the Roland G70..
using a R&R cart
And your speakers that weigh more,..
Lifting a short distance to an X stand etc, ... It's not that big of a deal..

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#481727 - 11/24/19 06:26 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Dnj]
Dnj Offline
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Fran here is some answers for you...

Click here for Genos answers


Edited by Dnj (11/24/19 06:27 AM)

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#481733 - 11/24/19 07:43 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Fran here is some answers for you...

Click here for Genos answers



Donny, DonM gave me most of the answers I was looking for....
Eileen and Fred gave some answers at your request..

To recap.. You can only layer the 3 right hand parts, unless
you use ensemble (then you have 4).
What I like about layered parts, you can get interesting results in
sound. I also like to use this method instead of OTS. Since you can have
combinations. My G70 has 6 parts to layer or blend. My E-A7 has 4.

Files in a folder is limited to 2,500.

3g is max in expansion memory, and 128g is confirmed max flash(so far).

I am use to 2g external on the G70 (plenty, because no audio).

The E-A7 has no limits on files in a folder, and will read 2 terabytes flash.

The karaoke files are still not practical.. Search is limited to 2,500 files
in a folder. And the need to open the Zip tp play CDG.
Still better to use my cell phone. grin

At this point, I most likely will pass on the Genos and SX. They don't offer
any benefit for me, over what I have. Other then lighter weight(G70).

I still need to play your Genos and Dave's SX.
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#481734 - 11/24/19 07:55 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
[quote=Dnj]
At this point, I most likely will pass on the Genos and SX.
They don't offer any benefit for me, over what I have.
Other then lighter weight(G70).


Well we tried....no surprise there..
Personally I wouldn't use anything you asked..
Enjoy your G70/EA7 nothing wrong with that ....
you don't need anything else....
Until Roland releases a new arranger kb
and maybe not even after that.
Happy Holidays.

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#481741 - 11/24/19 08:48 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
DonM Offline
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I can't imagine having 2,500 CDG files, but then I mostly play styles anyway.
The obvious advantage of using the Genos to play CDGs is the huge screen. Easy to see, change pitch, etc.
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#481742 - 11/24/19 09:02 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: DonM]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Originally Posted By DonM
I can't imagine having 2,500 CDG files, but then I mostly play styles anyway.
The obvious advantage of using the Genos to play CDGs is the huge screen. Easy to see, change pitch, etc.





Don my reason for asking about CDG, and why 2,500 is not nearly enough..

I do some karaoke parties, and you need to handle request quickly.
I have over 100,000 files and an online service with over 31,000.

The keyboard with this option would be a plus.. Video out would handle big screen.

And for a far reached request while doing solo work..it could come in handy. Biggest thing for me I would have the lyrics instantly. Where most of you have text files..

PS: I have never charged for karaoke parties. smile They have all been for kids and special needs folks as donated time (My daughter teaches special needs kids and I have a special needs grandson.. I play both parties).

Imagine if Roland would update the E-A7 to play CDG .. It already handles a large library. It has a decent search.


Edited by Fran Carango (11/24/19 09:10 AM)
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#481750 - 11/24/19 11:59 AM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Originally Posted By Fran Carango
I have read through the owners manual and the reference manual.

I would be interested in some clarification, or verification. smile

Can you layer 4 sounds.. I know there are 3 right and 1 left, but in non split , can the left sound be layered with the 3 right? It also appears that sustain is not possible for the left sound.. Is that correct?

It also appears that chords do not appear in SMF's unless they are embedded . Is this true?

Can it read karaoke files (CDG and MP3 contained in Zip folders) Or do you have to convert to a Yamaha format?

How large of a flash drive can the Genos read ?

Is it possible to read a USB drive containing for example 30,000 karaoke files in a single folder, and use a
search feature to locate a specific song?

There is no sampler? Is this correct..? Can you import a wave file sample... for a tone, not a pad?


Would be interested in the same points with the SX900..


Some answers ...

No you can not layer the left and the right hand voices. When i turn on the left hand it automatically creates a splitpoint,,

I am not a midi file user, so i stay awayfrom answering thosequestions..

I have a 256GB usb stick in use, no problems at all, we do not know the limit yet, someone else is using a 512GB stick... but you can use 30.000 karaoke files on a stick and browse them alltrough a search filter.

There is no sampler, butyou can import your own samples troughthe YEM.. which is the edditing software and pack manager for yamaha keyboards.
- the YEM should have been an onboard tool like on other keyboards, its the indepth spund edditor and creator..
- there is no need for a keyboard to be a live sampler, where it comes to actually sampling sounds. Being able to import samples is more then enough.. a workflow for sampling. Using your mobile phone to record a sample outside, using your DAW to edit the sample.. and then importing it in your keyboard..


The answers also apply tothe sx900
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#481751 - 11/24/19 12:43 PM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
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Hi ,
sounds like the functions are almost the same between Genos and Sx 900.
Genos has more memory .
I don’t think the style creator differs between the two. To do any real in-depth editing, one needs external software.
Genos now has the chord looper and the style reset button.
Both have to use Yem for loading samples.
Genos has more sliders and knobs, and buttons.
Larger screen , but still works the same.
Better keybed with aftertouch.
Haven’t got a USB stick larger than 128 gig, it appears to work fine.
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#481752 - 11/24/19 12:46 PM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
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Thanks to all for the great questions and answers! Lots to learn and retain for sure! Have fun whatever you have!
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#481780 - 11/24/19 06:02 PM Re: Genos info wanted [Re: Fran Carango]
flingers Offline
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I to am curious if a left hand split voice could be able to have say a bass and piano voice combined, without accompaniment turned on? Simplified 2 voices on lower left hand split point.

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