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#486015 - 01/06/20 06:26 PM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
leeboy Offline
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Can't we post MP3's here?
I'm sure I saw some?
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#486021 - 01/06/20 07:31 PM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By leeboy
Can't we post MP3's here?
I'm sure I saw some?


Yes... But then they have to be downloaded....

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#486022 - 01/06/20 08:38 PM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
Originally Posted By leeboy
Rikki, I will try to record something. I do not know how to post it here, but I can figure it out.
I have not given up on the SX yet....and I'm sure I can work it out....a lot of folks are using them with great success.


Hi Lee,
I posted those 2 short files via file manager on this site, it’s just under the box where we write messages.

Donny’s option is the better one, but since I don’t record songs, just share the odd style, not really worth my while.

I think I might delete those 2 MP3’s I posted as they don’t really serve a purpose anymore.

Yes, don’t give up yet, the suggestions the guys on yammie forum may work for you.
As you said, there are so many Yamaha users, some work around must be working for them.
Spend some time on the registrations if you haven’t already done so, maybe for songs with those tied notes you might have to pick more similar type voices for one variation to the next. You can set so much stuff up in registrations. You can set up voices for r/h and not have to alter the ots for that style. So if it’s a one off song causing the problem, maybe you can find voices for that song that may work for you,
or someone mentioned DSPs ? and save to registrations.
I’m guessing maybe those glitches don’t happen with all ots’s with your tied notes, just some.
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#486042 - 01/07/20 08:19 AM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
leeboy Offline
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Loc: Ocala, FL USA
OK, I just spent a couple hours testing the OTS change function on the SX-900.
Based on great suggestions by the group....I can not make it fail....let me explain.
I am using the Yamaha playlist. I am using only Yamaha registrations called by the playlist. I have not changed anything.

So, Yamaha styles right out of the box. OTS link ON.

IF I do as suggested and be sure to lift my right hand before changing OTS they all work fine, no bad sounds no problems at all. I have done it very fast as well and still is fine. Even with voices that decay pianos, guitars etc...as soon as I lift my hand and hit a different OTS all is good. The previous sound STOPS as I would like and I can immediately use the next voice.

So maybe they fixed this issue? As soon as I lift my RH, and immediately change OTS the sound does STOP immediately....Yeah. I can see where if you hold the RH notes down it can and will cause the bad noises, abrupt change etc....after all you are telling the instrument you want to play the old sound still and switching while it is playing.

A nice menu option might be to kill all notes when you change OTS (just like it does when you lift your hand)...then you could immediately play the next notes that way you could hold notes into the next measure but change the Variation at the measure line.....but I will just use a fill or break instead of changing OTS in the case where a not ties into the next measure.....

And the sounds on the 900 are really great! I do a lot of orchestral stuff and it sure sounds good...

Thanks for the help everyone!
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#486043 - 01/07/20 08:37 AM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
Henni Offline
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
I like the GBL idea off allocating extra resources to whatever is currently playing, allowing it to play out in full even after kicking in the newly selected voices.

It does make for a much smoother transition indeed.
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#486051 - 01/07/20 09:23 AM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
Telmo Offline
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Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 439
Loc: Brazil - South America
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If this is all true...how can so many be using the Yamaha arranger at home and professionally?

I have seen lots of playing , changing OTS etc using standard factory styles/OTS and/or registrations with very nice results....if it is that bad no one would ever buy one...

I don't see a name for you in your profile?

Also, I am not under any conditions going down the SW arranger path again. I do not want to do any programming. Especially anything as deep as DSP. I bought the Yamaha for content, available styles and quality voices. AND supposedly smooth style engine.

THIS TIME I am going to concentrate on learning music better and perfecting my playing.

If the SX-900 will not give me smooth transitions to different sounds I will can it, and get something that will.


Lee,
I myself use the SX900 OTS LINK ON all the time. Whenever I change the variation, the voices also change automatically with a smooth transition. Even while I hold the Sustain pedal and change the voices, the transition is imperceptible. It has to do with the effects for each voice. I learned a secret, and it worked for me. Whenever I change variation I make sure the new voice is not activated on the previous variation, this way there is no abrupt change. Remember, you can have 3 voices on the right hand. So, let's say you have the Sax voice on the right one of the OTS 1 and if you want to have a electric guitar on the next OTS, make sure you have this electric guitar on the right two and leave the right one muted. This way the transiton is smooth.


Edited by Telmo (01/07/20 09:24 AM)
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#486074 - 01/07/20 02:12 PM Re: Question about changing OTS on SX900 [Re: leeboy]
leeboy Offline
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Telmo, Great tip, thanks....so far I am using Yamaha's OTS's with the styles from factory....when I get around to doing my own I will keep that is mind.....
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