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#48697 - 10/01/03 11:46 AM
Re: kn7000 1st week Impressions
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Originally posted by Mainer: HI everyone,
Let me say it’s been an interesting week and I've come to realize this Lil darlin has a bit of a learning curve. I got the Getting the most from your KN 7000 book from technote yesterday so we will see if that helps any.
Jerry, You have to take into consideration that the features of the KN7000 far exceed those of any Yamaha arranger, even the Tyros and 9000 Pro, therefore there is a bit of a learning curve initially but not a big one. The KN7000 is by no means a difficult instrument to master and once you become familiar with the Technics "speak," you'll navigate the KN without a problem. Be sure to delve into all the KN has to offer and I am certain you'll be even happier with it. I'm a bit surprised you feel the woodwind sounds are weak as I found them to be better than those on my 9000 Pro. Yamaha has a decent sweet soprano sax but Yamaha's other woodwinds and most of the string sounds are very weak in my opinion. I quite liked the KN's oboe, saxes, and even many of the wind sections. Try using the KN's sound edit function to alter filters, FX, and velocity curves and you should be able to tailor the sounds to your liking. In addition the KN7000 offers you four sound card slots to install even more sounds should you feel the need for more. Only the Yamaha 9000 Pro has similar capabilities (two sound slots) and the Tyros has none. Once you become familiar with the KN's functions, especially the sequencer, style, and sound edit functions, you'll see how limited Yamaha really is compared to the KN.
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#48698 - 10/01/03 06:49 PM
Re: kn7000 1st week Impressions
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Originally posted by Ensnareyou: the features of the KN7000 far exceed those of any Yamaha arranger, even the Tyros and 9000 Pro
Woah. There's a bit of conjecture, huh! I happen to aggree about the orchestral voices, but Yamaha is no slouch in the acoustic rhythm instruments section. There is also a huge advantage in the Tyros/psr lineup where drum sounds are concerned.(yeah, yeah.... more opinions). Many of my friends that heard the kn7k thought that the drums were less than stellar. I'd rate drum tones in this order: (not styles, just tones) 1)Ketron/Korg?Tyros 2)Roland VA/PSR/Gem 3)Technics/Casio/Farfisa As for the styles themselves..... too subjective. Ketron, PA80, Tyros, VA7 all seem to be at the top of my list for groove and feel. Tough subject - keep playing Jerry, and give us more input after you get your key-legs !
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#48699 - 10/01/03 09:36 PM
Re: kn7000 1st week Impressions
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Hi Uncle Dave, maybe the kn drum sounds, actually sound too realistic, and people aren't used to that( haahaa) No offense, but as for rating va7 drums above kn7. I dragged the va7 out the other day, to give it another try ( plain haven't warmed to it yet). Took me a couple of minutes to realize that it was brush drums playing in the background, whereas what it sounded like, was a buzz in the speakers.
I personally prefer the kn7 sounds to my ex 9000pro also.
Maybe it's just the fantastic kn7 speaker system that makes the keyboard sound so great.
best wishes Rikki
p.s. Uncle Dave, you really know how to bait us one eyed Technic Fans haahaa. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Uncle Dave: There is also a huge advantage in the Tyros/psr lineup where drum sounds are concerned.(yeah, yeah.... more opinions). Many of my friends that heard the kn7k thought that the drums were less than stellar.
I'd rate drum tones in this order: (not styles, just tones)
1)Ketron/Korg?Tyros 2)Roland VA/PSR/Gem 3)Technics/Casio/Farfisa
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#48703 - 10/02/03 11:54 AM
Re: kn7000 1st week Impressions
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Bruno, my question was to Esnareyou, but If you want, also to you... But it is not as if I ask your opinion about your wife and neighbour wife, because you have both wifes (both keyboards), isn't it?
My needs are easy to tell: Home player, not an expert, not gig. Like acoustic sounds. Like slow and modern styles, not rock nor big band.
You said Kn7000 and Tyros approach the music subject differently... It would be interesting to know what is that difference in your expert opinion (as you have both).
But my interest is not on KN700 nor Tyros. Is about kn2600 and PSR2100, and its differences in feeling and philosophy. I know technical differences, but...it is not all!
[This message has been edited by Bluebird (edited 10-02-2003).]
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#48704 - 10/02/03 02:34 PM
Re: kn7000 1st week Impressions
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Bruno, my question was to Esnareyou, but If you want, also to you... But it is not as if I ask your opinion about your wife and neighbour wife, because you have both wifes (both keyboards), isn't it?
My needs are easy to tell: Home player, not an expert, not gig. Like acoustic sounds. Like slow and modern styles, not rock nor big band.
Jerry, I have but one wife which I love dearly, but I do have 2 keyboards---and that's all I can handle.
Let us say that the psr 2100 has the same thoughts as the Tyros. And the Kn2600 thinks like the Kn7000. The only instrument here I have not played is the KN2600.
In my humble opinion----based on what you are saying--home musician, and good acoustic sounds--There is very little contest, in these areas the Technics product is far ahead.
As far as slow and modern styles--- The psr2100 leans more toward contempory music.
My opinion is based on what I have discovered through research and experience. This being the Technics forum,does not shade my opinion.
I feel the Technics is very user friendly, and has great styles. If you desire slow and modern styles they can be created or bought.
If you decide to do any recording, or create different instrument sounds, the Technics is far ahead agin. There is one more goodie, the SD memory card. I can record my keyboard, then play my guitar, then sing--put them altogether and send them to the SD card. This keyboard will play the audio files--how special.
A floppy disk can hold aprox. 20 to 30 midi files. My 128mb will hold over 600 midi files.
If my desire was to work with the computer and downloading midi files to my keyboard, I feel the psr2100 will do a better job.
There you have my opinion Jerry, that should help you a bit. Now---it's your turn Jerry's. You must decide by what YOU hear and see, not logicaly but emotionaly. Music is about feel and feelings.
I do hope I've helped you, John C.
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