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#488139 - 01/30/20 12:39 PM
Re: Workstations or Arrangers ... (again?)
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Donny, you need to get out more. When Carol and I went to Mexico, we stayed at Riu Palace Las Americas and we saw several shows a night, and every one of them featured someone on an arranger keyboard. The same was true when my son and his wife went to Playa Del Carmen. I think this is more YOUR perception than the general public's. Almost every restaurant in Baltimore's Little Italy has an arranger keyboard player and no one looks at them as Casio toys or home organs. Keep in mind there are hundreds of thousands of arranger keyboard players working in other parts of the world, and very few of them even bother to spend time on the Synthzone. Arranger keyboard players are very popular throughout Europe and Asia. No one there looks at them as home organ players. One of our members, Abby Pianoman, works nearly every night of the week at various restaurants on the Mediterranean Island of Ibiza, but frequently travels to other countries to perform using his Genos and Electric piano. I seriously doubt that he is considered a home organ player and is in high demand everywhere he goes. I can only think of one time when an elderly lady came up to me and said "My grandson has one of those." When I asked where he plays, she said "Oh, he doesn't play anywhere other than home." I just smiled and kept the dance floor filled to capacity. Gary 
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#488160 - 01/30/20 04:06 PM
Re: Workstations or Arrangers ... (again?)
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5386
Loc: English Riviera, UK
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Donny, you need to get out more. When Carol and I went to Mexico, we stayed at Riu Palace Las Americas and we saw several shows a night, and every one of them featured someone on an arranger keyboard. The same was true when my son and his wife went to Playa Del Carmen. I think this is more YOUR perception than the general public's. Almost every restaurant in Baltimore's Little Italy has an arranger keyboard player and no one looks at them as Casio toys or home organs. Keep in mind there are hundreds of thousands of arranger keyboard players working in other parts of the world, and very few of them even bother to spend time on the Synthzone. Arranger keyboard players are very popular throughout Europe and Asia. No one there looks at them as home organ players. One of our members, Abby Pianoman, works nearly every night of the week at various restaurants on the Mediterranean Island of Ibiza, but frequently travels to other countries to perform using his Genos and Electric piano. I seriously doubt that he is considered a home organ player and is in high demand everywhere he goes. I can only think of one time when an elderly lady came up to me and said "My grandson has one of those." When I asked where he plays, she said "Oh, he doesn't play anywhere other than home." I just smiled and kept the dance floor filled to capacity. Gary But do they use arrangers because they want to, or is it because clubs and pubs are no longer prepared to pay for a live band, and an arranger is the only way that musicians can earn money for something they enjoy. Given the choice would you go and see a live band or an arranger player, for me it would be a live band, as while an arranger is a jack of all trades, it is a master of none. Bill
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#488164 - 01/30/20 04:29 PM
Re: Workstations or Arrangers ... (again?)
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Why I started using arrangers: 1. Easy choice to go from huge organs to light weight arrangers. 2. Price. I get a keyboard, a "band", a vocal processor, a backup singer, a mixer, a harmony machine, multiple effects, a nice display for lyrics/text, a sequencer, a karaoke machine, a digital recorder, much more...all in one inexpensive package! 3. I get to keep all the money. 4. I don't have to teach the other members of the band any new songs. 5. I don't have to worry whether the drummer runs off with the guitar player's wife 6. I don't have to check with anyone before accepting or rejecting a job. 7. Arrangers don't drink on the job. And they always show up on time. And they never bring a drunk girlfriend with them. And I don't have to worry about how they are dressed. They gladly work on their birthday, holidays, overtime, anniversaries. 8. If I play a wrong chord change, the band follows me. Good or bad?  9. They let me belong to a very small, elite club of like-minded, good-hearted, semi-sober ARRANGER PLAYERS! HEE HEE!
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#488176 - 01/30/20 06:00 PM
Re: Workstations or Arrangers ... (again?)
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Senior Member
Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
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Dave thanks, good video. You’re always thinking, nice!
My take, a bit different because I live on another planet --- I want to learn everything that my present keyboard has to offer. Each keyboard has been designed by a team of experts, much smarter than me, I want every bit of it.
I do understand those who spend a short time, and end up deciding the keyboard is not or me, and have come to their decision because there are things, they want that are not in the keyboard. Fine, it is their direction. But, in the short time with the keyboard they never discovered the potential of the keyboard. I admire Tony and his Pa900, the keyboard must be like his pal.
My history: Many, many years with Technics -- 1 ½ years with the Ty3 --- about three years with Korg, and now back to Yamaha to learn the rest of the story.
My advice years ago to new buyers ---- don’t buy a keyboard you can learn to use in a month; if you do you will be bored.
John C.
PS, WOW, this post can also be applied to wives. (smile)(aaaaah)
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