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#492417 - 03/22/20 06:43 AM SD7 Review
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Would love to hear your thoughts on
your newly acquired Ketron SD7?





Edited by Dnj (03/28/20 06:49 AM)

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#492600 - 03/24/20 08:35 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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#492608 - 03/24/20 10:04 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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LOL. I didn't even notice the avatar change, as it changes so much smile Just kidding Donny smile Hope you're enjoying your T4!

Wife and I headed to bank - hope we don't get pulled over!
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#492609 - 03/24/20 10:15 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: zuki]
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Edited by Dnj (03/26/20 01:42 PM)

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#492610 - 03/24/20 10:18 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
LOL. I didn't even notice the avatar change, as it changes so much smile Just kidding Donny smile Hope you're enjoying your T4!

Wife and I headed to bank - hope we don't get pulled over!


Thanx Zuki ....T4 is doing quite well..
stay safe out there and cover up.

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#492611 - 03/24/20 10:27 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Two things ....
1) I'm respectfully asking you to consider removing the constant reminder of our health crisis, by changing your avatar to something else. We're all aware of the changes to life as we know it, but maybe less visual stimulation will help instill a sense of calm? Just my 2 cents. Wanted you to know how it makes ME feel. Just me?

2) SD7 is due here Thursday ... IF shipping goes as planned. I did have one years ago, but many things have changed, and the chance to swap it for my EA7 was a welcome opportunity. It went to a good home, and will no doubt get more love from Tye than I would have given it.

So, if it comes on schedule - I'll play it, and comment on it, but for now ... like much of the rest of our lives - we wait.
Be safe, my friend, and please don't take my comments as an attack. Just wanted to weigh in on one man's opinion. My glass is always 1/2 full.


SD7 is a great keyboards if I don’t have both Audya and SD9, I’d have keep it, I hope you’d enjoy it, just check ups it’s on the way, please use it for your FB live, I’d love to hear you with Sd7 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
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#492613 - 03/24/20 10:47 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Shade of pale]
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SD7 is a great keyboards if I don’t have both Audya and SD9, I’d have keep it, I hope you’d enjoy it, just check ups it’s on the way, please use it for your FB live, I’d love to hear you with Sd7 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓


Shades of Pale ...
would love to hear your EA7 review also once you get to using it...

Thanx

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#492616 - 03/24/20 10:55 AM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Edited by Dnj (03/26/20 01:42 PM)

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#492791 - 03/26/20 01:41 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Two things ....
1) I'm respectfully asking you to consider removing the constant reminder of our health crisis, by changing your avatar to something else. We're all aware of the changes to life as we know it, but maybe less visual stimulation will help instill a sense of calm? Just my 2 cents. Wanted you to know how it makes ME feel. Just me?


Dave I hope your happy
no more icon and no more discussing the truth
you & others win and I'm outta here

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#492796 - 03/26/20 02:05 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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Dave, I loved a lot about the SD7, but the length of it made me do too many compromises in my setup. I would reconsider it under certain circumstances for sure, but certainly not now with all that is going on.
Put the time and effort into it and you will love it.
I'll be happy to share my registrations with you if you like.
A good thing about Ketron registrations is that they contain ALL the information saved, even if that information is not present elsewhere on the board or drives.
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#492797 - 03/26/20 02:11 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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Don,
I know the user styles do not contain the RH voice. I did not know the registrations contained the voices. But, I have not used registrations a lot. I need to work with that and do some experimenting. Still loving my Ketron experience and I really like the convenience of my SD40 module.

Deane

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#492798 - 03/26/20 02:14 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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Yes, I was able to load all my SD7 Registrations into the SD40 when I had it, and they all worked perfectly, pulling up styles, text, voices, etc., even though they weren't saved anywhere on the module or USB.
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#492799 - 03/26/20 02:24 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: hammer]
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Originally Posted By hammer
Don,
I know the user styles do not contain the RH voice. I did not know the registrations contained the voices. But, I have not used registrations a lot. I need to work with that and do some experimenting. Still loving my Ketron experience and I really like the convenience of my SD40 module.

Deane


Hi Deane, I think you can save your user voice in the 4 slots and save them with your user styles.
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#492801 - 03/26/20 02:34 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj

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SD7 is a great keyboards if I don’t have both Audya and SD9, I’d have keep it, I hope you’d enjoy it, just check ups it’s on the way, please use it for your FB live, I’d love to hear you with Sd7 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓


Shades of Pale ...
would love to hear your EA7 review also once you get to using it...

Hi Donny, I always like Roland styles, but the lack of 1. Real Break button 2. No hold button, (to be fair, Yamaha doesn’t have it either ) 3. No restart/restyles button that’s kind of a deal breaker for me. But overall I t does what I expected it to do, small enough, has some of the built in styles from Thailand which I’d like to have 2-3 Times a year. I’m amazed at what Don Mason and other player here made some fabulous music with EA7🤓

Thanx
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SD9, Audya5, Genos, Roland XP60, 2 Yamaha DSR12, 2 Yamaha Sub, 2 Turbosound 2000

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#492804 - 03/26/20 02:47 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Shade of pale]
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Originally Posted By Shade of pale

Originally Posted By Dnj

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SD7 is a great keyboards if I don’t have both Audya and SD9, I’d have keep it, I hope you’d enjoy it, just check ups it’s on the way, please use it for your FB live, I’d love to hear you with Sd7 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓


Shades of Pale ...
would love to hear your EA7 review also once you get to using it...

Hi Donny, I always like Roland styles, but the lack of 1. Real Break button 2. No hold button, (to be fair, Yamaha doesn’t have it either ) 3. No restart/restyles button that’s kind of a deal breaker for me. But overall I t does what I expected it to do, small enough, has some of the built in styles from Thailand which I’d like to have 2-3 Times a year. I’m amazed at what Don Mason and other player here made some fabulous music with EA7🤓

Thanx

Tye, try using intro 1 for a fill/break. You have to hit it slightly early, but a lot of the factory styles have been changed to make it very useful.
As far as Hold button, not certain what you mean, but remember a lot of functions can be assigned to the row of buttons on the bottom left. I have assigned 1.Tempo Ritard (to ritard endings mostly), 2. Track Mute (even though there is a dedicated button. Default is mute all style parts except drum and bass). 3. R1 DSP on/off. 4. Lead voice cycle between R1, R2 and R3. 5. Melody Intelligence. 6. Arranger Hold (maybe what you need?) 7. Lower Hold
This arranger is VERY deep. Don't give up on it until you learn what all it can do. In many cases a long press (press and hold) opens up editing screens. The Balance knob doubles as a data wheel...much, much more than isn't readily apparent.
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#492806 - 03/26/20 03:11 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
Track Mute (even though there is a dedicated button. Default is mute all style parts except drum and bass).


Don et al,
Is it an option in lieu of a break button to use this track mute button, or the arr on/off as a break? Seems like it'd be suitable with just the drums playing while you do your break. Thoughts?
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#492807 - 03/26/20 03:16 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
no more icon

Donny, I know you're emotional right now. We all are. Let's stay calm, and focused. This is a 100% safe space to connect with friends. Let's embrace the opportunity. As per requests - I'm thinking of going live with the SD7 very soon. I even shaved today. Love ya, man.
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#492808 - 03/26/20 03:25 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By DonM
Track Mute (even though there is a dedicated button. Default is mute all style parts except drum and bass).


Don et al,
Is it an option in lieu of a break button to use this track mute button, or the arr on/off as a break? Seems like it'd be suitable with just the drums playing while you do your break. Thoughts?

You could do that. You'd have to hit it once to turn on and again to turn on.
BTW when a midi file is playing the track mute button mutes track 4 of the midi file, and of course it can be changed by holding the button down and selecting another track.
I save Track Mute because I had a button I wasn't using and it is easier to see in low light than the built-in button.
When I first got the EA7, after using it a week or so, the style parts quit playing. I tried everything and finally decided it was broken. I took it to the shop and they couldn't find anything wrong. Later I discovered that the track mute button and been engaged and saved to a User Program. I didn't know that it controlled style parts; I thought it was for only midi parts, as all the other arrangers I've owned had done!
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#492809 - 03/26/20 03:37 PM Re: SD7 Review Dave [Re: Dnj]
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... the mind is a terrible thing! laugh2
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#492813 - 03/26/20 04:00 PM Re: SD7 Review Dave [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
... the mind is a terrible thing! laugh2

For sure. I have read that owner's manual so many times I can almost recite it, at least the parts that affect my usage. Still a lot it can do that I don't get into...sampling for example.
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#492815 - 03/26/20 04:10 PM Re: SD7 Review Dave [Re: Dnj]
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Tye,
None of the Ketron products store the RH voices for user-styles within the style. The OS uses a pointer to the voice's location. This is why we put numbers in front of all the user voices - so they do not get mixed up in a folder and stay in the same order. As long as you number your user voices it works great with styles.

Deane

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#492816 - 03/26/20 04:11 PM Re: SD7 Review Dave [Re: Dnj]
DonM Offline
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Ketron Registrations are SO powerful; I feel it's the way to go, but of course I just think about how I would use it.
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#492830 - 03/26/20 05:57 PM Re: Uncle Dave Your new SD7 Review yet? [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
Originally Posted By Shade of pale

Originally Posted By Dnj

Quote:

SD7 is a great keyboards if I don’t have both Audya and SD9, I’d have keep it, I hope you’d enjoy it, just check ups it’s on the way, please use it for your FB live, I’d love to hear you with Sd7 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓


Shades of Pale ...
would love to hear your EA7 review also once you get to using it...

Hi Donny, I always like Roland styles, but the lack of 1. Real Break button 2. No hold button, (to be fair, Yamaha doesn’t have it either ) 3. No restart/restyles button that’s kind of a deal breaker for me. But overall I t does what I expected it to do, small enough, has some of the built in styles from Thailand which I’d like to have 2-3 Times a year. I’m amazed at what Don Mason and other player here made some fabulous music with EA7🤓

Thanx

Tye, try using intro 1 for a fill/break. You have to hit it slightly early, but a lot of the factory styles have been changed to make it very useful.
As far as Hold button, not certain what you mean, but remember a lot of functions can be assigned to the row of buttons on the bottom left. I have assigned 1.Tempo Ritard (to ritard endings mostly), 2. Track Mute (even though there is a dedicated button. Default is mute all style parts except drum and bass). 3. R1 DSP on/off. 4. Lead voice cycle between R1, R2 and R3. 5. Melody Intelligence. 6. Arranger Hold (maybe what you need?) 7. Lower Hold
This arranger is VERY deep. Don't give up on it until you learn what all it can do. In many cases a long press (press and hold) opens up editing screens. The Balance knob doubles as a data wheel...much, much more than isn't readily apparent.


Thanks Don, it does what I intend to use it for, my main kB probably SD9 or Audya still, I’ll definitely look into all things you mentioned, thanks a lot, like you said there’s a lot of hidden functions on the thing
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SD9, Audya5, Genos, Roland XP60, 2 Yamaha DSR12, 2 Yamaha Sub, 2 Turbosound 2000

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#492832 - 03/26/20 05:59 PM Re: SD7 Review Dave [Re: Dnj]
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Don,
I agree. With all the spare time I now have I will dive into them and see how it works for me.
I have been reading AJ's new user manual and it give a pretty good explanation of the registration setup and use.

Deane

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