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#502444 - 03/13/21 08:18 AM My New to Me Genos
Harold123 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/10
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Loc: Harrisville Pa USA
After meeting Claudio in Landcaster Pa recently to purchase His Mint Genos I met a real Gentleman, Now a Friend. I love to deal with people like this! The Genos is a very nice Keyboard for Me. Love the 76 keys and action. The layout is easy to get around on and Sounds/styles are very good, again for Me. We are spoiled by all the Great Keyboards We can purchase...I want to thank Frank for giving Me the Lead. I have purchased previous Keyboards and Sound Gear from Frank with Great success, none Better!...So Thank You Claudio and Frank for everything....Sincerelty, Harold

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#502445 - 03/13/21 11:05 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Hi Harold,

Congratulations!

I am very happy to hear about you becoming a GENOS owner.

Yes, Frank is an asset to SynthZone members. He has saved us thousands of dollars over the years on purchasing musical gear.

You will have many years of enjoyment with this fascinating keyboard arranger.

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#502448 - 03/13/21 12:29 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Tapas]
Harold123 Offline
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Thank You Tapas...I agree with everything You Mentioned...Harold

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#502449 - 03/13/21 01:15 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Loc: NW Florida
It’s funny how things change! Years ago, when Yamaha didn’t make a 76 no matter the cost, I couldn’t get a Yamaha player to admit a 76 was needed. Now they don’t make a 61 TOTL no matter the cost, magically the 76 is quite happily accepted...

Perhaps the next step is a 76 SX series, now that the advantages of those extra keys is being willing to be admitted! I for one would quite welcome a 76 SX900. As I really like playing piano parts with both hands, the extra octave or so makes all the difference..!
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#502452 - 03/13/21 03:31 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Diki]
Harold123 Offline
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So true Diki...Like You I like full keyboard Piano as My favorite even split mode gives you more room...as long the weight is good. It's really what fits ones need. been a lot of 76 models around for along time. Yes the SX-900 would be real nice with 76 keys maybe that will happen soon. being retired My budget has limits My Wife reminds Me! I was looking for a pre-owned Genos for almost 2 years which I saved up Money during that time. It happened paid CASH I'm happy. Now if My aches and Pain don't get the best of Me. Harold

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#502454 - 03/13/21 05:04 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Congratulations Harold. 👍
Enjoy your new 'musicmachine'. I'm sure you're going to have lots of great moments and lots of fun while play and exploring all the goodies!
🎵🎹🎵
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#502456 - 03/13/21 07:22 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
Harold123 Offline
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Thank You Gumnar...Very Kind words spoken...Harold

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#502458 - 03/13/21 10:01 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Registered: 06/04/02
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Harold, if your aches and pains come, having a Genos will make them easier to deal with. (smile) As I read your posts my desire to have a Genos is growing.

Oh well, John C.

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#502459 - 03/13/21 11:19 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: bruno123]
Harold123 Offline
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Thank You John C. You are also a True Gentleman I purchased from before My Friend...Best wishes with Your thinking! Sincerely Harold

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#502464 - 03/14/21 11:40 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Loc: NW Florida
I must admit, my BK-9 being under half the weight of my G70 has been very welcome! One of the under-appreciated advantages to the lighter weight is that lighter construction cases can be used while still providing full protection. Cases for a 45lbs keyboard really need to be traditional flight case construction, which means close to 30lbs+ added to that 45lbs keyboard... Ouch, my poor back!

For most of the time I used my G70 I played either bands or a duo, which meant help with the lifting, but since I do primarily solos now, that 20lbs BK-9 in the 20lbs SKB hard case is a dream come true!

If you can find an SKB that fits the Genos, that sounds like a great rig for all round playing..!
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#502502 - 03/22/21 10:29 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki

Perhaps the next step is a 76 SX series, now that the advantages of those extra keys is being willing to be admitted! I for one would quite welcome a 76 SX900. As I really like playing piano parts with both hands, the extra octave or so makes all the difference..!


Not gonna happen.

Genos design is already compact and light weight for TOTL arranger. I believe they did it due to chronic complaints for poor bulky designed Tyros series and trying to complete with better cut/looking Pa3x/4x. I prefer Yamaha style control buttons because they are more solid and proven Tyros style buttons with good spacing. Pa3x/4x looks more stylish / cooler and the body construction feels more solid.




Sx900 keys ( even though they are improved), they are not the same category as Genos/ Tyros/Pa4x quality.

Genos , which has 76 keys (13 Kg- 28 lbs) is lighter than Tyros 5 - 61 keys which is 14 kg. It’s lighter than Pa4x - 61 keys which is close to 14Kg.

Width is way shorter than bulky fat Tyros 5 -76 and even 17mm shorter than Roland BK9.

Sx900 is already more than 25 Ibs. 76 keys with ( with supporting body )may add minimum 1 more pound with will be close to 27 lbs.

The problem with Genos is the price.



Edited by jamman (03/22/21 11:09 PM)

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#502504 - 03/23/21 07:06 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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“Not goinna happen”.... Yep, that’s what they said about a 76 Tyros. Never say never..!

The BK-9, at 20lbs has a keybed easily as good as a Genos or PA4X (but doesn’t have aftertouch), fits a case for a 73 Nord Electro, and retailed street price little more than an SX900.

As I said, absolutely nobody said they wanted a 76 Tyros, ever thought Yamaha would make one, made all the same tired arguments about the issue. For years...

Can’t say I’ve read a single post from someone that said they wouldn’t upgrade to a Genos from a T4 because it only came in a 76... I predict that the same would happen if the SX went to a lightweight 76 as long as the keybed was up to the BK-9’s standard.


Edited by Diki (03/23/21 07:07 PM)
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#502511 - 03/26/21 03:50 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki
“Not goinna happen”.... Yep, that’s what they said about a 76 Tyros. Never say never..!

The BK-9, at 20lbs has a keybed easily as good as a Genos or PA4X (but doesn’t have aftertouch), fits a case for a 73 Nord Electro, and retailed street price little more than an SX900.

As I said, absolutely nobody said they wanted a 76 Tyros, ever thought Yamaha would make one, made all the same tired arguments about the issue. For years...

Can’t say I’ve read a single post from someone that said they wouldn’t upgrade to a Genos from a T4 because it only came in a 76... I predict that the same would happen if the SX went to a lightweight 76 as long as the keybed was up to the BK-9’s standard.



It’s always good to hope. The reality may be a different story. 76 keys MOTL arranger request is historically less common than 76 keys TOTL. MOTL arranger module from Yamaha is more common but who knows?
One day.

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#502517 - 03/27/21 02:33 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Registered: 11/11/04
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Congratulations on the new Genos, Harold!

While I’m enjoying my SX900, I certainly wouldn’t mind to have all those sliders! :-)

In my case it is also a particular seller who made the purchase possible, with official prices that would not be an option.

As for the design, I believe both Tyros and Genos have impressive looks; but portability surely counts. Considering that any box or a case tends to weight a lot itself, each pound matters.

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#502521 - 03/27/21 07:32 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Kabinopus]
Harold123 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/10
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Loc: Harrisville Pa USA
Thank You Kabinopus Same here, I found a pre-owned Genos from a Friend which made it possible to afford. It's a wonderful keyboard but Your Gifted Talent is Most Important...Thank You again...Keep making Music My Friend...Sincerely, Harold

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#502522 - 03/27/21 07:56 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 2788
Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
Congrats Harold on the Genos. That transaction was practically in my back yard smile And yes Frank is the best.

The Genos is more a studio, stay at home keyboard, while the SX-900, much more portable. Call me Captain Obvious smile

Happy Playing!
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#502524 - 03/27/21 10:35 AM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
Harold123 Offline
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Thanks Larry...Had a Great meal while there picking up the Keyboard. A Friend traveled with Me We split the driving part doing it in one day Of course He liked the Meal Also plus the Money I paid Him!...Yes the PSR-SX900 is a Great Keyboard Also. Sincerely Harold

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#502527 - 03/27/21 02:43 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
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Originally Posted By Harold123
Thanks Larry...Had a Great meal while there picking up the Keyboard. A Friend traveled with Me We split the driving part doing it in one day Of course He liked the Meal Also plus the Money I paid Him!...Yes the PSR-SX900 is a Great Keyboard Also. Sincerely Harold


Nothing better than an Amish Pennsylvania Dutch meal and a Genos to go
smile
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#502528 - 03/27/21 03:39 PM Re: My New to Me Genos [Re: Harold123]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14277
Loc: NW Florida
Not sure I agree with the 76 being only good for home, while gigging players would want a 61. One would have thought the other way round, to be frank, gigging keyboard players being more likely to have the chops to play some proper piano stuff, and the home hobbyist less so.

I doubt any home pianist is going to feel happy with less than 88 weighted, but the gigging player is rather more concerned about weight. And 88 choices for a full TOTL level arranger are non-existent, some kind of unwritten rule seems to dictate only MOTL capabilities for 88 note arrangers 🤬

But 76 arranger weights have plummeted to the point that they are barely a couple of pounds over the weight of a 61. And you’ve got to be driving a subcompact tiny car before a 76 is too big as long as you don’t buy an oversized case. In this day and age of SUV’s and pickup trucks the size of whales, who HASN’T got room for a 76?!

My BK-9, in a hard plastic case with wheels weighs 5lbs less than my G70 did alone! Maybe it’s time to acknowledge that progress has made some of the old arguments a bit moot?
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