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#503966 - 10/04/21 06:52 PM
Step-by-step guide to performances and perf lists?
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I might finally be ready to roll up my sleeves and experiment with Performance Lists and Performances on the BK-9. I am prepared for extreme frustration! I've seen folks swear that there are unresolved bugs which prevent things from saving or being recalled as intended, and that sounds pretty scary! I have the manual. However, is there a good step-by-step tutorial to setting up performance parameters, using the "lock" or "hold," or whatever it's called to retain certain settings, etc.?
I'm not big on effects. The main things I plan to change with the performances are: style and variation (including user styles); tempo, volume level and mute status of style parts; RH voices, melody intelligence. MAYBE touch-sensitivity. Occasionally I might want to change the status of Bass Inversion and split point (although it might make more sense to "lock" these.) Perhaps also the "Arranger Hold" parameter, and the status of Sync Start. One thing I would like to "lock" permanently are the functions of the D-Beam and assignable switches. So far the assignable switches keep reverting back to some kind of default setting, hence this post!
Trying to benefit from the collective wisdom here. If you know of a good tutorial (either in print or on YouTube, etc.), please post a link! Thanks!!
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#503967 - 10/04/21 10:00 PM
Re: Step-by-step guide to performances and perf lists?
[Re: TedS]
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Well, the thing about a 999 entry Performance List is, if you are willing to sectionalize each song, no matter what you want to do, it’s easy to set up a Performance for each section that doesn’t need any holds, etc.. With 999 to work with,, even 10 changes per song, you still end up with about 100 complete song setups before you need to load another Performance List..!
That’s rather the beauty of the system, rather than pulling your hair out in frustration trying to remember what Holds to enable or disable, just create a Performance for the Verse, Chorus, Bridge, Solos, etc. for each song…
Start perhaps with the Intro setup, tempo, sounds, effects, etc, then save, adjust the Variation, any new sounds, inversion calls etc., then save as Verse, move on to the Chorus, Bridge, whatever…
If you want to step through everything totally hands free, either an FC7 with switches set to Perf Up/Down or a switch into the Control input set to Perf. Up, and just set the Perf’s in the order they need to be (you can always copy and paste you main setups).
Your big problems start when you want to remain old school, call up stuff on the fly, sometimes you need to Hold Tones, or Hold BassInv. etc., but not always…
All in all, unless you are shooting for totally improvised medleys of anything that springs to mind, the Performance List without any arranger Holds is going to work fine,
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#503973 - 10/05/21 09:44 AM
Re: Step-by-step guide to performances and perf lists?
[Re: TedS]
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I know for a fact that the As. SW’s are storable per Performance. FC7 and Control Pedal are not storable (they’re in Globals). But what are you trying to set them to? Do you already have any Arranger or OTS Holds set to on? That might interfere with whether they work or not.
Not everything saves in Performances (the Auto/Preset tempo when changing styles on the fly, for instance), but you need to be more specific when talking about things that don’t work. And a lot of people like to throw the word ‘bug’ around when something doesn’t work the way they’d prefer, but unless the manual specifically states that something SHOULD work and it doesn’t, that isn’t a bug, just a design choice someone disagrees with.
Like I said, a lot of the problems occur when combining Hold settings with Performance use. Unless you are REALLY locked into one way of working, always do the same thing every time, and one set of Holds works 100% of the time, I find they are more of a hindrance than a help.
And, of course, are you using a combination of your own Performances, and Performances from the MA? Remember, they’re going to have their own settings, not necessarily what you want. Arranger Chord Recognition type, for instance (I prefer Pianist2 in all situations, and the MA Performances are all written with Intelligent). So if I use an MA Perf., I edit it to have what I prefer and then save to my Master Gig List.
It’s a big change going from old school on the fly operation with Holds to using the Perf. List as your main way of selecting tunes. I’m not sure a combination of both is optimal.
Give me more specifics about what seems to be going wrong for you, maybe we can sort them. But check to make sure all your Holds are off for now, so we eliminate one of the suspects…
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