We were discussing Styles, and in particular, Korg & Yamaha styles.
I mentioned a midi style player, which would not be an arranger.
The thread morphed because guys with egos decided to start jumping on arrangers again.
The name for people who just want to take someone down and cause unpleasantness is troll and there are some on here.
What I like to play and what I spend my money on is down to me so they need to butt out and pursue their own interests.
I only mentioned my age in reference to say that I didn't always have new keyboards so if I want one mow, that's my choice.
You are also guilty of arranger denigration too.
What about Korg vs Yamaha styles without any bullshit?

Blaming others for a variance in the thread (That is not exactly what the OP originally started) that you created, is unbecoming.

Bill

What about Korg vs Yamaha styles.
Isn't that what we came on here to consider.
Who's varying the thread?

Diki, if you can afford four roadies, you must be making pretty good money with that puppy-poo sounding sucker .

chas

All that we are saying here is acceptable ---
Just keep in mind that they are only opinions.

When I was playing out, I embraced my Korg Pa4x and the styles.

Now that I am a home player, I have a Yamaha Sx900, with it’s many styles. I changed my direction, that my needs changed.

So which styles are better --- Korg or Yamaha? Depends on who is posting.

IMO, John C.

I have about 50,000 third-party Yamaha styles, many of which are song specific, therefore, never worried about being repetitive and using the same style for other songs. It took me a decade to accumulate these styles, some of which were duplicates that had been renamed, and I auditioned each and every one of them to determine their quality and variation changes, and the OTS settings, all of which are important factors for entertainers and musicians alike.

Over the many decades I have been playing music, beginning with an old upright piano, I never considered myself a musician - just a player that could sing pretty good. When I began entertaining others while playing various instruments, at age 16, I still did not consider myself a pro, though I was being paid to play and sing.

Having owned at least one or more of all the other top brands, Korg, Roland, Tecnics, etc..., I stuck with Yamaha, mainly because of the versatility and the style selection, which is immense. Every day, on the PSR-Tutorial site, someone requests a style for a specific song. 99% or the requests are filled, often within an hour. Granted, most of the song specific styles are for songs in the 90s and early 2000s, however, there are a lot of newer style requests that are also posted.

A few members on another forum I frequent, take their Yamaha arranger keyboards to a whole new level, creating incredible movie tracks that are beyond description. These individuals have taken the time to explore most, if not all, of the incredible features of these fantastic instruments and produced some of the most amazing music I've ever heard.

Yes, this is an Arranger Keyboard Forum, a place where individual arranger keyboard players come to learn more about their keyboard's features and inner workings. Over the years, I have done my best to help those in need of specific information and solve some of the problems from a technical aspect. Yeah, I can play, I used to be able to sing pretty damned good, and I can read music, though not enough to hinder my playing.

If you want to download some of my Yamaha style files, you can do so at My USB Drive These are the styles that I keep on the USB drive of my PSR-S950 and link to my Music Finder Directory and registrations. They will work in any Yamaha Arranger Keyboard, though some of the voices may be substituted. These voices can be changed, though, using the keyboard's onboard style creator program.

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

Gary

Here's a classic example of what an arranger keyboard is capable of in the hands of someone that has taken time to explore the inner workings and features. My friend Christian, in France just posted this:

Hello everyone,

Off to Sicily...
Today I present to you the soundtrack of the film "The Sicilian Clan", music that was composed by Ennio Morricone.
"Le Clan des Siciliens" is a French detective film directed by Henri Verneuil and released in 1969.
The plot: Vittorio Malanese, leader of the Sicilian clan, organizes the escape of the mobster Roger Sartet to help him carry out a daring hold-up.

I made this recording in multi-track using an Ethereal intro and then the Sirtaki style.

The instrument you hear added is a Jew's Harp.
I made an audio sample with AUDACITY software and transformed it into an audio pad.




Gary

This is another classic example of creativity using a PA1000. Bring Him Home was performed by a friend on another site, Andy Carvill. Yes, he used a lowly arranger keyboard to produce this masterpiece. He is incredibly talented, to say the very least.

Cheers,

Gary

So Gary, I don't know how good you are playing an arranger but you're DAMMED GOOD at tooting your own horn .

1. Do all these foreign players that you present KNOW that they're your friends.

2. In all these 'wonderful' arrangements, what makes them wonderful, the arranger keyboard or THE PLAYER? (If it's the keyboard, then why don't we all sound like that?).

3. Were these performances done in arranger mode (auto-play) or were most of the parts played by the musicians that produced them?

In the last 30+ years, I have owned at least seven different arranger keyboards and/or modules, so obviously I don't hate arrangers. I consider myself a mediocre jazz organist (Hammond only) and have only played organ in professional venues. I have to admit that my interest in arrangers has more to do with technology than with music production. I'm an engineer by training and a geek by nature so naturally when combined with my strong interest in and affinity for music, I would gravitate towards arranger keyboards, if only out of curiousity. Over the years, my interest in arranger keyboards has diminished considerably and that is because I haven't seen anything truly new or innovative (in an earth-shattering way) since the Tyros II/PA1x era. Better quality sounds, questionably better styles, and a few new whiz/bang navigational features; not enough to pique my technical curiousity (at least not 3-5000.00 worth). Fact is, I haven't turned on any of my arrangers for a couple of years now except the BK7m which I use (strictly as a very good and convenient drum machine) for practice and rehearsal. On the other hand, I play my clonewheel (Legend) and cloneRhodes (Crummar SEVEN) every single day. Others here have started to duplicate my actions with their digital pianos. Hey, whatever gets your juices going. If that's an arranger, so be it, HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION, one will never get the same level of satisfaction playing an arranger (with style backing) as one would playing an acoustic instrument such as a piano or guitar, that he/she has mastered. Again, just my opinion (as in, 'valid only for me').

chas

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