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#506240 - 07/20/22 07:07 PM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
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Sorry Chas,and DIKI but I think you guys are really beating a dead horse with your arguments. Quite frankly the requirment to be cival to each other has ignored the truth about each of your arguments. I would remind you that no one on these forums has reached the level of success you would expect from someone who has devoted themselves as much as you both have. I don't know of any tours or record deals. Sorry but maybe no one here is good enough to put someone else down for seeing music as a business & making a decent living with it. I for one agree with Gary's point of view on this one!
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#506241 - 07/21/22 04:37 AM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: cgiles]
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Chas, your impro is good, nice balance, good recording.

I have a different view on presenting a song with impro.
1-First time through, play exactly the way the song was written.
2-The second time impro.

My opinion is we add what we are feeling, but not enough to bury the song. I believe we should we should add to the original. It is very much like a Christmas tree; after you decorate it, it is still a Christmas tree.

In the Jazz clubs I went to, if I missed the them playing the song the first time through, I had no idea what song was.

Chas, I enjoyed your recording, but it was confusing. If you did not write the title, I might not have known what song it was.

Only my opinion, John C.

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#506242 - 07/21/22 06:51 AM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By bruno123

Chas, I enjoyed your recording, but it was confusing. If you did not write the title, I might not have known what song it was.

Only my opinion, John C.


And I value your opinion John, but if you didn't recognize the song from the intro and first 'play-through', then I have to assume that you don't know the song. The entire first chorus was about as 'straight' as one would play a jazz tune. I also ended it the same way. I've provided a few examples below to help familiarize you with the tune (along with a tutorial on the chord changes). Enjoy. Remember, 'jazz' represents freedom; freedom to interpret, express, play, a tune any way you like (within commonly accepted guidelines). That's probably why there are so many sub-genre's of jazz. That's why no two jazz musicians will ever play a tune exactly the same way. I encourage you to listen to as many of the examples below as you can. We can all learn from listening to others. Have a great day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_NnsbIqNQ&ab_channel=boesjazz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZTq0siU3Ik&ab_channel=ElianeEliasOfficial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnd5070WkU&ab_channel=FrankVignola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qEZ3bpCoMk&ab_channel=UnlimitedMyles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Til3lV_ItZE&ab_channel=ozcar30000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjE2IRz3kd8&ab_channel=StanGetz-Topic

chas
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#506244 - 07/21/22 11:15 AM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
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You are correct, Chas - I thought it was another song - my mistake.

Gary cool
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#506245 - 07/21/22 11:21 AM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
cgiles Offline
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No problem Gary, they're both classics. Ain't music grand?

chas
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#506250 - 07/21/22 04:26 PM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
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Registered: 10/20/09
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Great playing Kabinopus. Does the pedal control the sax bends? That's pretty cool!


Edited by montunoman (07/21/22 04:38 PM)
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#506251 - 07/21/22 04:36 PM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
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Chas, I recognized "There Will Never Be Another You" within the first couple notes. I think anyone familiar with the tune would. Anyways, very enjoyable rendition of an old classic.
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#506262 - 07/23/22 03:57 PM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
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You have discussed a lot in this topic :-)

Gary, thanks for clarifying that you replaced the buttons on S950. I had some of buttons replaced as well, now I see that it would've been a better idea to replace them all. I don't have friends like you do :-)

Paul, yes, I've been using a foot controller as a pitch bend for years; an actual wheel (joystick) isn't really usable when you have to play chords all the time.

As some of you may already know, I got my SX900 back, fixed (for now)...

I've been saying a lot about EPianos which I like on SX900, here's one of them in my new video.



https://youtu.be/IEURBru0dus

What you see is actually a Russian competitor of "Google Maps". You can see streets, or look down from "air balloons"; I've been studying my country lately using this service and wanted to show it to you. If you care to try it, here's the link: http://maps.yandex.ru

My PSR-3000 is back in the bag, and SX900 is ready to play... Should I switch them back? Not sure...

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#506263 - 07/23/22 04:35 PM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
cgiles Offline
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Very pretty classic 'Rhodes" chords. Love the progressions, very jazz 'fusion-ish'. That's a great sounding Rhodes-type sound on that SX900, as good or better than some dedicated Rhodes-clones I've heard. Volumes are well balanced across the keyboard - good full 'bottom' and just the right amount of 'bell tone' on top. Excellent chord choices to showcase the Rhodes sound and feel. Very nice.

Also, apologies for hijacking this thread earlier.

chas
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#506264 - 07/24/22 03:28 AM Re: My new PSR-3000 video [Re: Kabinopus]
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Thank you, Chas, glad that you liked it. Indeed, Yamaha usually does a good job adjusting each sample, that makes the instrument playable and fun to use. My Roland Juno DS has a lot of nice sounds, but altogether it's not as smooth, it creates some tension. When I was younger, I thought that Rhodes was a thing of the past, now I realize how rich and flexible this sound is. Perhaps if I ever have a chance to play the real thing... Well, then we'll see. Sometimes it takes time to appreciate things for what they are.

No problem with "hijacking", it keeps the forum more alive :-)

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