Have we lost the Forum at psrtutorial ?

Rather weird indeed. The message "The PSR Tutorial Forum software is not compatible with the latest server upgrade" is not weird by itself, things happen, but the note on the front page just says that the forum is no longer available and says nothing else, as if they aren't going to fix it.

At top of mainpage https://www.psrtutorial.com/ there is a message:

"Note: the FORUM is no longer available due to a software incompatibility with the newly installed server OS!"

Hopefully this is a temporary issue.

For those of you that's not aware of it,
here is Yamaha Musicians Forum:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=92

Yamaha Arranger related forums index:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=97

And here you can go stright to the Genos / Genos2 related part of the forum:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=160

Greetings Friends!!

Several websites I visit daily are still not functioning correctly since last weeks global computer F-up!!! I'm still hoping they are fixed soon. All those wonderful styles and other content and of course the forum........Hoping our PSR world will be restored!! -charley

Here is the latest news from PSR Tutorial:

Quote from https://www.psrtutorial.com/

Note:
FORUM update:
Our forum software in not compatible with the most recent server upgrade; therefore, we are closing the forum. Thanks to each and every member who has contributed to this great resource over the last 21 years. We wish all of you well with your future endeavors. Our best regards, -- Roger Brenizer (PSR Tutorial Forum Administrator) and Joe Waters (PSR Tutorial Administrator).

Note also, that while this main web site (psrtutorial.com) is still operational, it will be retired some time later this year. I'm afraid this admin is getting too old and worn out to keep it alive. -- Joe

Too bad that a sever update should be the reason to close down a great forum and that the PSR Tut mainsite is planned to be closed down as well.

Hi Charley,

I recognize you from the PSR forum. Yes, unfortunately that wonderful forum is now gone. I actually had emailed them suggesting that they put a better explanation on the gateway page and they have now done that. Both those admins are advancing in age so at some point they were not going to continue anyway. The time and effort they had put into that well run forum was amazing. I wish them only the best. Ideally a motivated person will start a new forum.

Rich

Surely someone could take over the helm and use another server if there is the demand.

Another server is being considered, but not an iron clad deal at this point. I have been a moderate there for 20 plus years and will dearly miss this wonderful forum.

GARY

The information says that we still have access to old stuff. But nothing about how this has to be done. I have NOT figured it out.
Miss the forum.
Jørgen

Yea that's kind of weird, no way to access the old forum.
The statement of a new server, no forum ability, sounds strange.
Maybe the Worldwide IT outage or a possible hack takeover has infected PSR Tutorial?
I too miss the forum.

No,it's not hacked, it's simply a software compatibility issue because of server upgrade.
I guess all of the PSR Tut Forum users / members will miss it a lot!
But, there are people willing to help to save / host the forum if PSR admin don't figure out any solution or fix and are willing to accept the offer:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21145

It would be very very sad if all that info and knowledge posted at PSR Tut Forum just disappears...

About 8 years ago I wrote to the administrators and suggested that they update to a newer version of the forum software that worked with responsive web design.
In this way, the display on smaller screens could be much better = readable without zooming in on smartphones.
At the time (about 8 years ago) I got the answer that they couldn't see the need for that, and besides, they were quite satisfied with the software as it was.
This is an example of how, if you don't keep up (just a little) with the development, you will inevitably run into problems at one point or another.
Of course, I don't know if updating 8 years ago could have solved the current problem. But at least the situation couldn't be worse!
Jørgen

You can access the various segments of the site where the lessons, styles, etc...are stored--just not the forum segments. I was able to do this today.

Gary

Right. But I miss the forum more!
Jørgen

I think all do, but in the meantime while we're waiting for news about PSR Tut Forum,
there is a good option available to slow down the worst abstinence. 😉
Many PSR Tut members already found the way:

https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=97

Looks like the decision to close down is permanent, and now also there is added a new sentence at the end of the info that say the PSR Tutorial website will close down as well:


......
Note also, that while this main web site (psrtutorial.com) is still operational, it will be retired some time later this year. I'm afraid this admin is getting too old and worn out to keep it alive. -- Joe

It may be understandable, but terrible news nonetheless.

Maybe someone with ambition can take over PSR Tutorial?

Well, there sure is possibilities, but it depends of PSR Tutorials owner / admins decision to accept the offer.
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21145

We had the same issues at Roland-arranger.com. Site maintenance and dwindling participation made it too much of a faff to keep going.

We have to face it, there simply isn't much of an English speaking player base to continue some of these niche forums running and keeping up with forum software updates is a young man's game.

I am grateful to Kerry for keeping Nigel's dream alive despite the lack of traffic on this site...

I wish I would have printed more threads from Roland-arranger.com to pdf while the site was up and the search function worked. Especially before that major upgrade about two years before it went down for good, that wiped out a lot of valuable historical content.
Roland-arranger was further handicapped by Roland's apathy toward its arranger product line, which probably led to a declining user base.

By comparison, Yamaha is THE major arranger manufacturer at almost every price point, with a healthy or growing user base. It's a shame, but if those folks can't go to psrtutorial, they'll eventually coalesce somewhere else (and hopefully not Facebook, because that's a terrible platform for any kind of technical discussion!) My $.02.

Agree fully! 👏👏👏

It's been a great journey through all these years! To me, SZ has been, and is still a great Forum!
I'll carry on peek into Gen Arr Forum as usual, and that's more or less every day. 😁

I also will miss the psr forum. It was the only place I could “usually “ find an answer to a technical problem that I was having. I belong to several other forums that more or less feature user’s videos which I have no objection to but it was nice to have a place to discuss problems with other Yamaha users.
Maybe synthzone’s Yamaha could become more popular?
Skip

I must confess, I find Facebook groups a really bad substitute for a decent BBS forum. Facebook’s Group Search algorithm is close to useless, and looking up older threads is close to impossible. It’s a good short term chat and demo platform, but places like SZ have DECADES of searchable knowledge and informed opinion.

Agree. Facebook is completely useless as a substitution.

Jørgen

Dear Friends and Colleagues,

As one of the one of Administrators of PsrStyles.com, I am pleased to inform you about an exciting development. We have recently opened an alternative to the PSR Tutorial Forum, which can now be accessed at: PSR Tutorial Forum Alternative .

We have also been in communication with Joe Waters, the owner of PSRTutorial.com, regarding the use of the PSR Tutorial Forum name and certain content from the original forum. While we are still in the process of formal discussions, please be assured that we will not use the forum name or any content without proper authorization. Our new forum is a non-commercial venture, even though it is a part of the PsrStyles.com platform. Additionally, Mr. Waters has expressed his willingness to consider posting information about this alternative on the official PSRTutorial.com site.

We are excited to invite all former PSR Tutorial Forum members to join us in this new space. With our collective experience, we are confident that this forum will grow into a valuable resource for Yamaha keyboard enthusiasts. The community is evolving every day, offering a fresh and professional environment to continue the legacy of the original forum.

Our new forum is entirely dedicated to Yamaha keyboards and related discussions, and we look forward to welcoming you to this vibrant new community!

Join us at: NEW PSR Tutorial Forum

Best regards,
PsrStyles.com Administration

Many of us *PSR members' already found a great alternative and are active at Yamaha Musicians Forum:

Yamaha Arranger related forums index:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=97

And here you can go stright to the Genos / Genos2 related part of the forum:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=160

Indexpage:
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/index.php

👍🎵🎶

Dear Gunnar Jonny, I respect your opinion, but as with any new platform, fresh faces, different opinions of different people and different opportunities naturally emerge. I believe staying active across different forums and platforms can only be beneficial. Thank you.

Nice.
Then I assume you will post a message at your forum to tell users about where to find Yamaha Musicians Forum as well?

We are open to collaborating with any musical forum administrators.

For clarification, we have official permission from Joe Waters to launch the new PSR Tutorial Forum and use all content from the original site. This information is also posted on the official PSRTutorial.com website, and Joe himself has registered on our new platform. Although PsrStyles.com is a commercial platform, but the new PSR Tutorial Forum remains non-commercial.

We strongly encourage all former members of PSR Tutorial Forum to register on the New PSR Turorial Forum and continue their discussions actively. Each participant should have the freedom to choose where they want to engage, as that is the right of every individual. I am proud to report that many people are very excited about the new forum.

Our goal is not to divert visitors from other forums but to offer an alternative space for discussion. We simply seek constructive collaboration with administrators from any forum or organization related to Yamaha Keyboards.

Thank you

Agree fully.
However, many of the original PSR Tut Forum members already found the way to Yamaha Musicians Forum very quicly after PSR Tut announsed the shutdown.
My personal 'shout out' was, and is to inform those who did not know where to meet or what the future would bring.
Your alternative forum was not even a theme or mentioned when PSR announsed shutdown.

Anyway,
Yamaha Musicians site and Forum is still a brilliant and great place and alternative for musicians as well as Arranger Keyboard users to meet and share knowledge, wisdom and discussions.👍👍
https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/index.php

just a quick update

We are currently working to restore and fix the original PSR Tutorial Forum fully and its content. So we highly recommend all former members of the old PSR Tutorial Forum stay updated by following the latest news on PsrStyles.com and PsrTutorial.com .

Thanks all

Really?
Does that mean the members database, posts and conversations as well? 🤔 §

// GJ

Dear Gunnar Jonny,

Yes, that includes the members' database, topics, posts, and conversations 😉. Our team is currently working on updating and fixing the original forum software compatibility, and if we succeed, we’ll bring the old original PSR Tutorial Forum back to life. We’ll keep everyone updated on this matter through official websites: PsrTutorial and PsrStyles.

Thanks

Thank's for the information. 🤔

Gunnar Jonny, you are welcome

Well, so far it doesn't look like I'm particularly welcome to log into my account at YOUR forum.
Who knows, maybe the 'never expiring ban' (even set before I'd try sign in after reopening) is a confirmation that I'm right in my assumptions? 🤔

Anyway, life goes on, also here at SZ and YM Forum as well at other fora.

Exciting News for All Yamaha Keyboard Lovers!

We’re over the moon to announce that the Original PSR Tutorial Forum has made a triumphant return! After a long restoration journey, all the fantastic content, engaging discussions, and valuable user accounts have been fully recovered. This treasure trove of tutorials, resources, and conversations from the past two decades is now at your fingertips again. Whether you’re an old friend or a newcomer, join us and reconnect with fellow Yamaha enthusiasts.

Dive into the forum’s new chapter here: PSR Tutorial Forum

Get ready to explore, learn, and share your passion for Yamaha keyboards!

Nice to see it's up and running, even if it's now driven as a part of a more commercial business.

At Yamaha Musicians Forum no one is over the moon, but quite the opposite, down to earth and very active by discuss Yamaha Arrangers and other musical topics.
The community grows every day.


Diversity is a good thing,
so we should not forget that there is a Yamaha Arranger part here at
SynthZone Arranger Keyboards Forums as well.👍