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#52294 - 11/09/02 08:02 AM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
John North Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 449
Loc: Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Hi Sparky as far as I know it is possible to record seperately on all 16 tracks, using whatever voicing you choose. It's usually only a problem when you record on R1 or R2 and then copy that track. When you copy it, it also copies the Track Assign. So when you've finished your sequencing it's worth checking Track Assign as outlined in my previous post.
John

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#52295 - 11/09/02 09:06 AM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
Sparky Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 182
Loc: lewiston maine usa
Thanks again John!
So if i do copy a track and then go into track assign and edit it there, it will permanently fix it back again to its own voicing, so that upon starting playback again it will not return back to the way it was before track assign fix? If so then it is a great fix. because I would like to copy tracks now and then. Which raises another question. If I was to copy a track or part of a sequence from another song number, would it also copy the track assigned in the other song number to the track I copy to? which would then lead me to have to go back into track assign and edit it back again? As we all know, the manual is too brief and does not include all these sort of things in it. One must experience and struggle through some stuff on his own because of this. Which also makes this forum more valuable. One needs to rely on others sometimes who have already struggled through those things. Maybe all these things are in the extended manual that alec wrote.
Tony
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#52296 - 11/09/02 09:25 AM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
Douglas Dean Offline
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Registered: 04/15/02
Posts: 554
Loc: Prospect Heights IL USA
Sparky, again, your very words - Quote: “This post in general which got insults but no help has showed me that I am better off to just stay out of here”.

I’m, sorry to hear you feel that way. Look at it this way. I too have the same board as you have. I have gotten many hours of pleasure out of the sequencer. There was a time when I did not even know how to spell sequencer. I learned how to get the most out of my keyboard one thing at a time. One of the last features of the board I set out to master was the sequencer. People who loved the boards of their choice as I did, were more than happy to help me understand what I did not know in my Ignorance at the moment. The more we all understood things, the more fun we all could have. They showed me things and I showed them some things. Altho music was not my main source of income we all had the love of making it. If I had asked my peers to help me in understanding the sequencer, (which I found out later was one of the best of the built-in’s at the time) and in the next breath judged their choice as lousy, how much help do you think they would give me???? I’m sure they would think - this guy want’s help? How in the world can you help some one who already has made up his mind the sequencer is crap??? If it was the vocalizer for instance, I needed help with, they more than likely would inform me that the vocalizer was not one of the strong points of the machine and suggest a workaround. After all even kings and queens and presidents have weaknesses. Sparky, I have used the sequencer with great success and pleasure as many others have. I also would like to hope you could see how others feel. I understand you were very upset with your efforts but also so was I with your attitude. Not because the remarks offended me or I have any reason to defend the company but there will be some new people out there who will be deprived of the pleasure of the wonderful music we experience on our boards. As a very active contributor to this forum you might mislead some very impressionable people with those kind of remarks. The ease of operation, the life like sounds, the wonderful styles, the fantastic colored screen, and on and on. Life is a lifetime learning process. Let us all learn a little from these exchanges. Sparky we all and even I would miss some of your great contributions to this forum so please think about it and don’t leave.

Sparky, I just read your last post and am glad you reconsidered.

Grandpa Doug

P.S. I know I grate some people the wrong way but that's me. I know because you told me so but that's life and that’s the way I think.
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Grampa Doug

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#52297 - 11/09/02 10:13 AM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
Sparky Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 182
Loc: lewiston maine usa
Bottom line Douglas, is that you were upset with the way I approached it, and I was upset with the way you approached it. And if you ask me, we both could have done better! I admit that I could have done better and will try to do better in the future. I get the impression you know you could have done better also. Let us both learn from this and grow from here while doing better in the future for the forums sake, and for the sake of the other members here, who do not need to view crap like what we both did on this post! Right? I know that we both appreciate this forum and owe it to the forum to behave better than we did!!!
I also think that because we have littered this forum recently with our words of critisism toward each others view that we both owe everyone "and each other" an apology! Therefore I hereby apologize! I am sorry the words I spoke out in frustration. I will do my best in the future to respect the opinion of others in the future. However I admit that I will probably not be pleased when other people here address thier negative opinion about me! Respecting others opinion about the kn series is another thing entirely. I do not have to like you Douglas, and you do not have to like me. But we can respect each other on this forum, and keep in mind that others have to listen to all we say here!
I did see this forum as slipping away from being useful for the kn6500 users as more people got and talked about the 7000 too. And I did try to do something about that because the 6500 is still a great machine and there are many many members who have the 6500 and will not be getting the 7000. I sat down and tried to think of ways to keep things here for the 6500 users. Like the blues recording idea.
I am sure everyone will agree that when the 7000 was out, the forum changed more towards talking about the 7000 and its pros and cons, while the other stuff that was so nice to see here and be a part of dissappeared. Being a 6500 owner, I read the 7000 posts and pondered getting one also, But there was nothing else here for me than that at the time. I knew the other 6500 users would feel the same and go to another forum or not came here any more if that continued. I know the 7000 excited people and with good reason. And I know there were many issues to talk about with the 7000. New and exciting stuff. But still thats about all that was talked about and so many were then left out in the cold because of that. There are more people here that do NOT own a 7000 than do. As far as I know at least. So the end result would be more people finding this place a less exciting for the sake of a few finding it more exciting. Am I making any sense here.?
Anyways, it seems my efforts in that department have done some good, and talk of the 7000 has decreased leaving more talk that all of us could participate in. i noticed a decrease in posts actually. Maybe because so much 7000 talk left nothing for the users with lower models, and so they just faded off somehow. So let us not stray away from the general public here so much, but try to make this place useful to all.
That means you 6500 users should keep it alive and suggest ideas and posibilities with the machine. You know the 7000 users do not and should not have much use for talking about thier old keyboard and with good reason. So if you 6500 owners do not want this great and useful, and exciting place to dissipate on you, then you need only to do your part and participate still. Or all 6500 owners will be fading out of here, leaving less and less topic that is useful to you. This forum does not run on its own. It keeps going from people sharing. And you are one of them. Do your best to keep it going and hope for the best. But don't just sit back and watch the 7000 take over the forum! Because if you do, you are part of the cause. You have a choice. Let it go, or help it to keep going. The 6500 is stil a great machine!
Tony

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#52298 - 11/09/02 10:22 AM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
Sparky Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 182
Loc: lewiston maine usa
Oh, and as far as the older model users than the 6500 even. It is sad but I don't think there is enough of yous to keep this place exciting for your machines. Sad but true. But the 6000 users are still in a decent number, However the 6000 users have had them for a long time, at least most of them and have been there done that so to speak and have already lost the excitement to a degree. In a year from now the 6500 users will have already experienced about all there is to experience on thier machine also.
God help me when that happens! HAHA Then I will have to upgrade. God that hurts my wallet! LOL
Tony
All feedback welcome!
And be nice! LOL
I am not perfect but my intent here is to help this place in a way that I can. Or can I? haha
So come on older model users! Don't let the fun die yet!
And 6500 users, lets think of things to post to keep each other enjoying it the best we can
Thank you all! Tony

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#52299 - 11/09/02 10:36 AM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
John North Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 449
Loc: Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sparky:
[B]Thanks again John!
So if i do copy a track and then go into track assign and edit it there, it will permanently fix it back again to its own voicing, so that upon starting playback again it will not return back to the way it was before track assign fix?

Hi Sparky, That's right - if you copy Right 1 say to Track 11, go to Track Assign, change the new track to Track 11 and any voicing will NOT be changed when you change voicing in Right 1
John

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#52300 - 11/09/02 12:02 PM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
larry gosmeyer Offline
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Registered: 01/23/02
Posts: 394
Loc: La Verne, CA USA
I have been sequencing using all 16 tracks on my KN6000 for many months without any problems. If I transfer one track to another I always "transfer" just the notes and not other data and that way I never have a problem with assignment.

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#52301 - 11/09/02 12:32 PM Re: kn6500 sequencer problem. Help!
Sparky Offline
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Registered: 02/28/02
Posts: 182
Loc: lewiston maine usa
Quote:
Originally posted by larry gosmeyer:
I have been sequencing using all 16 tracks on my KN6000 for many months without any problems. If I transfer one track to another I always "transfer" just the notes and not other data and that way I never have a problem with assignment.


So Larry,
Is there a trick/something you do to only transfer notes or does it just happen that way on your machine? You have the 6000 and I have the 6500 so there may be a difference there. I have never used the 6000. I can be fine with Johns way but if there is a way to transfer just the notes, I do want to know how to do that too. I just like to know all I can about this machine. I am getting to know her pretty darn good lately. And I must admit, I love her. We haven't slept together yet but I am thinking about it! haha Only thing stopping me at this point is that she has so many keys I don't know which key she enjoys me playing yet. Wait! Wouldn't that be the G-note? LOL
Tony

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