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#55628 - 04/06/02 03:20 AM Some thoughts about KN7000
Lindoz Offline
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Registered: 12/16/99
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Loc: Torshalla, Sweden
Hi again folks!
I like this forum very much, so I guess you have to bear with me now...

In the new KN7000, you can load midifiles, WAV and other files directly into the memory. But what happens if there is a virus enclosed? There are many aggresive virus out today, which can destroy your motherboard. Maybe the 7000 now been open for such horrids things?
Rgd
Lindoz
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#55629 - 04/06/02 03:59 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
Richard Bools Offline
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Registered: 12/19/99
Posts: 23
True indeed. However, I imagine that viruses are written to specifically attack operating system platforms such as Windows 9x (and motherboards designed for them), and exploit security weaknesses therein. The KN7000 (and indeed most keyboards) run an entirely proprietry operating system which the viruses weren't designed for, and I suspect will therefore have no effect on. To damage a KN7000, you would have to write a virus specifically for it (if that is even possible), but why bother given the relatively low user base?

Richard.

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#55630 - 04/06/02 05:42 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
Bob Hendershot Offline
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Registered: 12/02/99
Posts: 924
Loc: Johnson City, TN USA
I agree, Richard. I see no reason for concern.

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#55631 - 04/06/02 05:47 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4334
Loc: Norway
Hi,
I've also spinned some thoughts about the danger of virus attacks,
but through the years I have got my lesson too, and don't download
anything without scan it before save anymore.
And files have to be downloaded to the PC before transfered to the
KN7000 I guess?
To keep the viruskiller updated is very important as well, and no
users of internet should have been without such programs.

Reading about it, I've found that the viruses most often is created
to do damage on Microsoft based OS and hardware, as Richard mention
here, but we never know when someone start look for other targets.
We have already seen it regarding to mobile cellular phones.

It's a kind of scary, is'nt it?
GJ


[This message has been edited by Gunnar Jonny (edited 04-06-2002).]
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#55632 - 04/06/02 06:15 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 3319
What an interesting thought!

I'm with Richard on this one, someone who can disassemble code is going to get his kicks from Windows, Microsoft or the Pentagon. The world will not care if a few Kn7000 owners are perplexed, if there are headlines to be made elsewhere.

And windows viruses are coded for the relevant microsoft kernels and dlls and would not work on a keyboard operating system. But maybe they could be made to hide in a technics file, not to attack the keyboard, but to attack the windows that the files are downloaded to?

Besides the virus would have to transfer from the SD card/Custom/Composer? flash area to the operating system flash area, and that may not be possible without the system flash installation routine, unless there is a back door in the code somewhere.

It would be a first though...

fancy turning off the auto accompaniment every time you touch a panel memory?

turning all volumes to zero when you press the start button?

jumbling up all the program numbers in the styles at random so you get rap when you press waltz?

pressing disk load gives a complete initialisation?

hmmmm...

now where's my copy of Borland and SoftICE?


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#55633 - 04/06/02 06:31 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
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Registered: 04/01/01
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Loc: Norway
Hmmm, maybe so Alec, but we can't be too sure, can we ??
Even if Yamaha would be a much bigger target...
(pst... Scott, did you hear that?)
GJ
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#55634 - 04/06/02 06:42 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
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they don't need outside help, they seem quite capable of creating enough bugs on their own...

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#55635 - 05/24/02 07:52 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
Kenneth Gundersen Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 97
Loc: Lyngdal in Norway
Is this of any interest? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kn7000/

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#55636 - 05/24/02 08:37 AM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
Alain Offline
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Registered: 02/28/99
Posts: 380
Loc: De Panne , Belgium
Well done.
This is a good idea.
I joined the group and posted the first message.
Good luck.

Alain

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#55637 - 05/24/02 12:18 PM Re: Some thoughts about KN7000
Crysyl Offline
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Registered: 03/29/02
Posts: 16
Loc: Hoexter, NRW, Germany
Moin, moin,
(so we say in North Germany!)

the KN7000 and also the other KN-keyboards have the soundsamples and most of the operation systems burned in IC roms. It's not possible to get a virus in there. But the software for updating could have a virus. But if it would be so, you only have to update a clean software, and than all is ok again. There's no chance to attack something of the internal systems. (I hope, my English is OK)

Best regards

Crysyl

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