Hi again folks!
I like this forum very much, so I guess you have to bear with me now...

In the new KN7000, you can load midifiles, WAV and other files directly into the memory. But what happens if there is a virus enclosed? There are many aggresive virus out today, which can destroy your motherboard. Maybe the 7000 now been open for such horrids things?
Rgd
Lindoz

True indeed. However, I imagine that viruses are written to specifically attack operating system platforms such as Windows 9x (and motherboards designed for them), and exploit security weaknesses therein. The KN7000 (and indeed most keyboards) run an entirely proprietry operating system which the viruses weren't designed for, and I suspect will therefore have no effect on. To damage a KN7000, you would have to write a virus specifically for it (if that is even possible), but why bother given the relatively low user base?

Richard.

I agree, Richard. I see no reason for concern.

Hi,
I've also spinned some thoughts about the danger of virus attacks,
but through the years I have got my lesson too, and don't download
anything without scan it before save anymore.
And files have to be downloaded to the PC before transfered to the
KN7000 I guess?
To keep the viruskiller updated is very important as well, and no
users of internet should have been without such programs.

Reading about it, I've found that the viruses most often is created
to do damage on Microsoft based OS and hardware, as Richard mention
here, but we never know when someone start look for other targets.
We have already seen it regarding to mobile cellular phones.

It's a kind of scary, is'nt it?
GJ


[This message has been edited by Gunnar Jonny (edited 04-06-2002).]

What an interesting thought!

I'm with Richard on this one, someone who can disassemble code is going to get his kicks from Windows, Microsoft or the Pentagon. The world will not care if a few Kn7000 owners are perplexed, if there are headlines to be made elsewhere.

And windows viruses are coded for the relevant microsoft kernels and dlls and would not work on a keyboard operating system. But maybe they could be made to hide in a technics file, not to attack the keyboard, but to attack the windows that the files are downloaded to?

Besides the virus would have to transfer from the SD card/Custom/Composer? flash area to the operating system flash area, and that may not be possible without the system flash installation routine, unless there is a back door in the code somewhere.

It would be a first though...

fancy turning off the auto accompaniment every time you touch a panel memory?

turning all volumes to zero when you press the start button?

jumbling up all the program numbers in the styles at random so you get rap when you press waltz?

pressing disk load gives a complete initialisation?

hmmmm...

now where's my copy of Borland and SoftICE?

Hmmm, maybe so Alec, but we can't be too sure, can we ??
Even if Yamaha would be a much bigger target...
(pst... Scott, did you hear that?)
GJ

they don't need outside help, they seem quite capable of creating enough bugs on their own...

Is this of any interest? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kn7000/

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Well done.
This is a good idea.
I joined the group and posted the first message.
Good luck.

Alain

Moin, moin,
(so we say in North Germany!)

the KN7000 and also the other KN-keyboards have the soundsamples and most of the operation systems burned in IC roms. It's not possible to get a virus in there. But the software for updating could have a virus. But if it would be so, you only have to update a clean software, and than all is ok again. There's no chance to attack something of the internal systems. (I hope, my English is OK)

Best regards

Crysyl

Maybe something is already working on messing up our keyboards! Last night I was setting up a swing style for a recording when funny things started to happen. I switched from normal mode to expand, which I do when I set up panel memories for recording, and on the second setting, the tempo dropped from 156 to 130, on the next try I lost all backup volume and couldn't get it back. I searched all over for something that was switched to a zero setting and wouldn't show on the main screen, but all was in order. Instrument combinations were changing on me, too, so I finally removed the style and moved to a similar one. No more problems. Guess I'll ditch the bad style.

All rather frightening, I am now reading this wearing a surgical mask!!! Walter.

Hi Bud,

I think, you have load a older file with a sequence, perhaps a file from KN5000. If you after loading want to change the panel memories, it's difficult to make off the sequencer. If you change some panel memories and the sequencer play light is on, you will have the problem, that the tempo is not right on the panels.

Best regards

Crysyl

Sorry for my bad English! I wrote "it's difficult..." but I mean "it's important..."!

Crysyl

Crysyl, actually it was an old Roland swing style that wasn't part of any recording. I strip some of these styles down to bare bones and rebuild them, and there wasn't anything attached that would trigger the sequencer to play. That's one of the first things I check, but maybe if I would have dug deeper I might have discovered the cause. However, that takes time, and the style wasn't that good, anyway. So, I tossed it aside and moved on to another. And, thanks for the advice. When there are many things that can go wrong, it's easy to overlook something right in front of you.

Hi All

I read with interest what you guys have said on this subject and couldn't help thinking of the almost idential problems I had with my KN6000. It was a horror. Thank goodness I no longer have it.

I now have the KN6500 which is a superb instrument and is a great pleasure to play but having said that, I am still looking forward to seeing the KN7000 when it appears on the market.

Keep me posted please.

Aud

You are very funny!! I had to laugh when I read your post.

Thanks, now to be on the safe side I wear rubber gloves!!!! Walter.

Walter,

Don't try a glissando while wearing rubber gloves. Oh, and don't try singing while wearing a surgical mask.

Just trying to be helpful.

Mike

Thanks Mike for the tip but I don't drink!!! Walter.