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#56044 - 01/06/03 03:30 PM
Re: Managing 7000 Files
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 2782
Loc: Lehigh Valley, Pa.
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With all do respect cees, after reading "How to manage the SD Card" I am totaly lost ! So far, for me the SD card is not what it's billed as.
What is a person to do if they have over 1200 songs stored on their old Technics, and want to transfer them to the 7000? If the 7000 had a large capacity hard drive, instead of the SD card at least we would be able to transfer files the old fashion way...floppy to hard drive...simple and sure.
After reading about it, I have come to the conclusion:
1. It's slow, tedious, difficult, and complicated to set up files on the SD Card
2. One has to buy quite a few SD Cards, which by the way, are not cheap
3. One has to buy additional software to help in setting up files on the SD
4. One has to hook up the 7000 to the computer to set up files on the SD Card OR
5. One has to buy a reader/writer to try to orginize files for the 7000..not an easy task
Now I admit, that the old hard drive that you loaded up with floppies was a bit of a pain, but it seems to me that the SD Card is NOT an improvement, rather thus far a dissapoitment. Sometimes new is not better.
Larry Hawk
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#56049 - 01/07/03 12:09 PM
Re: Managing 7000 Files
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Member
Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 533
Loc: The Netherlands
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Hi forumfriends, accordingly to many replies, am I right that a list of gifts or a basic set for pleasant keyboarding with a KN7000 could look like underneath? - A Technics keyboard KN7000 : € 3200,- - a SZ-CB7-kit (cardreader and SD-jukebox, for handling audio and MP3 files): € 160,- - SD Techmanager 7000 € 150,- - 2 SD-cards 128 MB € 200,- Total amount for this set about: € 3700,-. And of course the joy of playing, but that is nowhere to buy greetings Cees
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#56053 - 01/07/03 04:33 PM
Re: Managing 7000 Files
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Registered: 04/15/02
Posts: 554
Loc: Prospect Heights IL USA
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Larry Hawk, you have this mindset Quote: “With all do respect cees, after reading "How to manage the SD Card" I am totaly lost ! So far, for me the SD card is not what it's billed as. What is a person to do if they have over 1200 songs stored on their old Technics, and want to transfer them to the 7000? If the 7000 had a large capacity hard drive, instead of the SD card at least we would be able to transfer files the old fashion way...floppy to hard drive...simple and sure”
With that kind of a mindset you will go nowhere. Your statement: “ at least we would be able to transfer files the old fashion way...floppy to hard drive...simple and sure” is nothing more than mouthing a falsehood. It is clear what you have been reading is not from the instructions in the manuel. Floppy to hard drive is the same only now it is floppy to SD card. Up until now when you would purchase a new KN keyboard If you wanted a hard drive you would have to pay extra and then install it. From 300 to almost seven hundred dollars extra. Now when I purchased my new KN7000 It cost me the same as I paid for my 6500 and my 5000. Thirty two hundred. But, and I say but because now I have no need to buy a hard drive. There is a SD chip built into the machine at no extra cost. The card that came with it I have yet to fill up. If I had hundred and hundreds of midi files I might have to get another card. I could get a much bigger card for less than a C note. If you feel the new system is expensive you got your information in error. The purchase of some of the things you might need for large amounts of information is miniscule in cost compared to a hard drive. From what you say I’ll bet you don’t have a 7000 and are just repeating some of the things others are saying. I do not have a problem what so ever with my SD card to date. Of course I do not store all of the older KN styles either. I have downloaded them all and then gleaned them for what I have determined worthy. Worthy for the type of music I play and also most of them do not come near to being as good as the new ones. Only those I let reside on my hard disk and now my SD card. The balance of them have a resting place on my computer to maybe at a later date be resurrected. I look at the problem of organizing all this stuff like I look at developing a new data base program. The first thing to do is form a plan. Plan what you want to accomplish. Write it down. Next construct your data base on paper. Think the thing through. Only then start to put it together for a trial run. Just samples of what the final thing will look like. After a few adjustments to correct any flaws then and only then enter all the files. My mindset on most of the projects I tackle is: Keep it simple stupid! I would venture to say most people could throw out 8o% of the things they accumulate and have stored in their basements, closets and hardrive or SD cards. Keep it simple is the way I think and the way I act. Of course that is what Ruthie always bugs me with. What you got all them stinking keyboards for??? What are you going to do with all them old saxes, clarinets and accordions? Ruthie remember, granddads, lots of granddads. They might just take after old gramps. I hope not, oh, I hope not says Ruth as she throws her dust cloth on the couch as she walks into the kitchen to make supper. Guess I will have a little talk with myself one of these days.
Grandpa Doug
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#56057 - 01/09/03 03:12 PM
Re: Managing 7000 Files
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Bert, I've actually managed to sort my styles, but I've got my parents staying for holidays for a few days, so it's stopped me from completing the list on my spreadsheet. After playing through them again, I've realized even though there are quite a few duplicates, they don't sound 100% the same, possibly due to different instruments, so I decided to keep them in too. I'll probably place it on file at the yahoo kn7000 user group so anyone who wants it can download it. Maybe a few days though before it's ready. best wishes Rikki Originally posted by Bert Aarts: It is good to see the number of responses in this topic because it confirms to me that I am not the only one looking for the best filing system. a poor manual results in a lot of inteeresting contacts between owners. "Every disadvantage has its advantage", our famous football player Johan Cruyff once said.
Rikki, The way you have set up yours is exactly the way I intend to do it. It would be most helpfull if you could send me your list of style no's & types and their duplicates. Thanks in advance, Bert
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Korg PA5X 88 note SX900 Band in a Box 2022
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#56058 - 01/09/03 03:16 PM
Re: Managing 7000 Files
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Bert, I've actually managed to sort my styles, but I've got my parents staying for holidays for a few days, so it's stopped me from completing the list on my spreadsheet. After playing through them again, I've realized even though there are quite a few duplicates, they don't sound 100% the same, possibly due to different instruments, so I decided to keep them in too. I'll probably place it on file at the yahoo kn7000 user group so anyone who wants it can download it. Maybe a few days though before it's ready. best wishes Rikki Originally posted by Bert Aarts: It is good to see the number of responses in this topic because it confirms to me that I am not the only one looking for the best filing system. a poor manual results in a lot of inteeresting contacts between owners. "Every disadvantage has its advantage", our famous football player Johan Cruyff once said.
Rikki, The way you have set up yours is exactly the way I intend to do it. It would be most helpfull if you could send me your list of style no's & types and their duplicates. Thanks in advance, Bert
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Korg PA5X 88 note SX900 Band in a Box 2022
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#56060 - 01/10/03 01:16 PM
Re: Managing 7000 Files
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Member
Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 533
Loc: The Netherlands
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Hi Ron, in my curiousity I'm examining the inf-file too. (the results I'v published on my homepage). Especially I'm interested in the last 2/4 digits(****) after the songname+001KN7(****). I'v discovered the meaning most of the hexidecimal codes of the files the keyboard uses, as you memorized. E.g. the *.sqt, the *.tm files and the codes which belong to the way you saved the files (saving, page 2). Maybe it is helpful to you to know. When I'm ready with this I will let you know if you're interested. My skills on this item is pure curiousity. I'm not a programmer or something. What I got to do with this I don't know yet. The only thing I discovered is when I change the songnames in a hexeditor and saves it on the SD-card-inf.file, these figures are imported to change. Otherwise the keyboard gives an error-statement. That's why I'm interested in the good digits. I think when you could succeed in making a 'program' for easily copying, changing and renaming etc., many forummers would be very, very grateful to you. Best regards and success, Cees.
[This message has been edited by cees (edited 01-10-2003).]
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