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#59497 - 11/20/06 02:17 AM Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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I've been trying to use a program called MDBC (Music Data Base Converter from Keysoft Service) to transfer my KN5000 song data to my KN7000 SD card. The transfer is not going well with corruptions happening. Is there a better way please?

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#59498 - 11/20/06 06:22 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
RMepstead Offline
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Registered: 06/15/02
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Hi Alan
What do you mean by song data...do you mean set ups (registrations) on your keyboard for live play; do you mean material which you have sequenced on your KN5000; or do you mean midi files...?
Rog
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#59499 - 11/20/06 07:16 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
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Registered: 05/16/06
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Hi Alan,
check your mail it is an item by the real KN guru!!! Alec Pagida, hope this will help sorry about the scan quality
Regards John.

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#59500 - 11/20/06 09:42 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Didn't get the email John. Can you resend

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#59501 - 11/20/06 09:44 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Almin Offline
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Sorry John - did get it. Where can I buy his book?

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#59502 - 11/20/06 11:30 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Fran D Offline
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Registered: 01/26/02
Posts: 918
Loc: Aiken, SC, USA
Alan,

Only ones available are at: keyboards@bellsouth.net

Walt Tenay has the manuals and most of the Technote Software.

Fran in SC

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#59503 - 11/20/06 12:13 PM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
jd5live Offline
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Registered: 05/16/06
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Hi Alan,
If you look at Technote they have the book on cd rom as they were the original producers of this product ther web site is www.technote.com and their Email is enquires@technote.com
also checkout Ebay for software, and if you need it I have contacts in Germany for midi/style files
best regards John.

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#59504 - 11/22/06 03:18 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Joan Offline
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Registered: 01/30/03
Posts: 550
Loc: Hampshire U.K.
Hi there - Is this the query you wrote to Fred Mellink about re problems using SD Explorer and which I quote
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"I am having trouble with SD Explorer. I have a data file from my KN5000
saved from the hard drive using HD Mec from KeySoft Service. I'm using MDBC
from KeySoft Service (Music Data Base Converter) to transfer the K5 data to
the K7 SD disc. Unfortunately, SD Explorer keeps wanting to repair the SD by
deleting the files I just converted. Can you help with the data transfer
please?"
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If this is the case then it may be that your original question on this thread did not make that clear and by clarifying this someone may be able to help you in some way......Joan

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#59505 - 11/22/06 02:01 PM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hi Alan,

I'm intrigued to know why you want to CONVERT KN5000 styles for the KN7000. Are you aware that the KN7 is programmed to read KN5 styles? All I did was copy my KN5000 SD Card to my desktop then drag and dropped from there to a new SD Card which had been initialised in the KN7. No problem.

Try it, may be it'll work for you.

Audrey



[This message has been edited by Audrey Turner (edited 11-22-2006).]

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#59506 - 11/22/06 10:19 PM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Almin Offline
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Registered: 11/05/06
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Hi Audrey - I found the backup file created by the HD Mec software that I used to make the back up from my K5 hard drive. Is this what you mean?
I was able to drag a file to the SD card. But it is very confusing as the 1980 songs that are stored have no names only numbers like 11907.CMP. Did you have the hard drive option too? How did you manage without song names?

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#59507 - 11/23/06 06:04 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Bob Hendershot Offline
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Registered: 12/02/99
Posts: 924
Loc: Johnson City, TN USA
"But it is very confusing as the 1980 songs that are stored have no names only numbers like 11907.CMP. Did you have the hard drive option too? How did you manage without song names?
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Alan, look for a file with the extension .ttx. For example 11907.cmp would be listed close to 11907.TTX. If you look at the .ttx file with an editor (Word Pad will do it) it will contain the name of the song that is associated with files starting with 11907. That is where the 24 character song names were placed by the KN5000 hard drive software.

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#59508 - 11/24/06 03:41 PM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1098
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hi Alan,

For that amount of songs to be transferred, I would say it is essential to have a cross-check system i.e. name AND number in case there are repeat song titles. Anyway it is quicker to load by number from the SD Card to the Keyboard.

I wonder also if you realise that however large your SD Card is, you can only save 99 folders with 20 songs to each folder. This is due to Technics allocation of a very small amount of storage space on the keyboard and not the fault of the SD Card, so I would say you will need quite a large SD Card(s) to store all that data. I use 1GB cards simply because my camera also uses SD Cards which means I can 'mix and match' but from what other members have said from time to time, 256MB or 512MB Cards should be o.k.

I was interested in Bob's reply to you. I didn't know about the extension. You learn something every day on this wonderful site.
Long may it reign.

Best of luck!

Audrey

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#59509 - 11/25/06 03:15 AM Re: Data transer from KN5000 to KN7000
technicsplayer Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 3319
if the backup was full with all index files it should have worked. I used the MDBC to transfer 3 6500 hard drive partitions to 3 sd cards when I first got the 7k and still have the original cards unaltered (I started reworking for 7k on copied cards). There is no fundamental difference with 5k hard drive backups, I actually also had some 3k hard drive backups. The only thing that would need alteration was some file re-naming for the cutoff to 16 characters. My point about indexes is because quite apart from the multiple ttx files containing the original names for each style there was an overall index file(s) created by the total backup that the MDBC program needed for correct operation. I can't remember what it/they were called, it's too long ago I'm afraid.


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Originally posted by Almin:
I've been trying to use a program called MDBC (Music Data Base Converter from Keysoft Service) to transfer my KN5000 song data to my KN7000 SD card. The transfer is not going well with corruptions happening. Is there a better way please?


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