Dear Alec the punch in and out is not yet
solved with my kn6500 OOOOOOOPS!

In easy record mode or the other full
rec mode with APC on.When i record right1
wiht APC in punch it goes alright.Both APC
and right1 are recorded smutanously supose
from measure 1-10.but when i take session
from 11-20 with APC and right2 then sometime
it goes alright otherwise it gives the
message: "it is necessary to press rec-stop to complete the procedure" This message
comes in manual punch,And if i use auto punch
the message comes:"Punch out rec has been
unsuccessful because sequencer operation was
iterrupted befor the punch out measure was
reached"

Am i doing somthin wrong .Please tell
me about these messages in bit detail cause
i am new to KN.there is no mension about
these messages in the manual.

One more thing to go,the APC doese
not record simultanously with other parts
except R1 R2 why? it shoud be recorded
simotanously with ohter parts too.If there is
any way please tell me Thanks.PPPllleeaassee
help me out.

Hi
I belive there´s a bug in the software because I also had problems with the Punch in and out, from time to time. But remember that you can´t record new tracks and measures in the Punch mode. Just edit in old ones.
Lindoz


[This message has been edited by Lindoz (edited 04-22-2002).]

first of all, if you are going to name people in questions, please do not post the same question on multiple forums, it is irritating either to have to answer twice or to ignore a question altogether.

I cannot say I have had any problems in the sequencer, with auto or manual punch.

The error message 22 is described on page 181 of the manual. This happens because you have pressed stop instead of rec stop in the screen, as decribed on page 84.

The other error message you decribe is number 56 on page 182 of the manual. This happens because you have pressed cancel in the screen before the punch out measure you have specified has played through as decribed on page 85.

Punch recording is only used to edit within the confines of the existing measures of a song, it is not used to lengthen a song. Lengthen a song by copy and pasting the control track, to put the correct stop commands before your punch out point, then you can punch in to your hearts content.


R1 and R2 are the "live" playing keyboard parts. If you want to multitrack record R1 and APC/Control first, then real time record any track you like with any part you like assigned on top.

If you want to record another part before R1 or R2 (for whatever reason) record it on R1 and then copy it out to another track, and then wipe R1. It is all in the copy and paste menu and very simple to do.

Alternatively just record the chords and control track with nothing on R1. Then you can multitrack on any other track or part.

Remember you are using APC in technics mode, not midi mode.

Ok Alec next time I wont post the same
message in two different forums,Sorry for that.

Thanks for your post.Now the problem is still not solved yet.First of all
I dont press stop button instead of rec stop.And niether cancel button.

You would prbably be wonder why
use punch function so frequently,because i
want to lenthen a song with APC and either
R1 R2.you tell me if i take my first session
with APC and R1 from measure 1-10 so in the
second session(which is 11-20) how can i go
or start directly from measure 11.This is
the main prblem.Copy and Pasting the measure does not solve my point.Please Alec focus
on this point I know u r a genuis and will
help me out.Thanks and Reply me soon.

I have described how you get the error messages you mentioned. There are many ways to get the error message (just pressing buttons at random will get one sooner or later), but the principle of the wrong procedure that leads to the error message remains the same. Without you describing the exact details of the buttons and the order you are pressing them, in relation to the tracks and measures of the song you are using, it is impossible to say where your particular problems occur.

If you copy and paste to increase the length of the song first, before punching, you are far less likely to run into these kind of errors, since many are due to incorrect stop and end commands in relation to the punch in measures you are attempting to overwrite. The solution is either copy and paste beforehand, or step record edit the commands afterwards.

Try this:

Press Easy Record then OK.

play 5 measures of chords and melody then stop after measure 6, then rec stop.

Press Sequencer, record & edit, punch record.

set all 6 tracks to rec.

Press start and listen to what you have recorded.

at measure 6 start playing some more chords and melody.

press ending, then rec stop.

What could be simpler than that?

Thank u Alec for your great asistance.

I have been working on kn6500 sequencer,u
wont believe 10 hours a day and solved the
punch problem before your last mail comes.

I tell u how i solved: in easy rec mode i recorded say 100 measures in full
tempo without playing the keyboard to lenthen the song cause i understood the punh
function works within the recorded measures.
Then in step mode i set the tempo again and
and things went fine.

Now i realy understand why u were
tellinig to copy and paste and increse the
lenth of the song.

Now one thing is still irritating
me that how can i take a second session
directly to a certain measure, say my first
session is from measure 1-10 and second
sesson starts from 11-20 without involving
the punch and cycle recording function.
Is there any way? when i had Korg 01W it
had all the powerful sequencing functions.
But now i have enterd into the world of
arrangers.
Thanks foe every thing ...waiting
reply me soon.

if you try my example in the previous post, this is the correct way to do exactly what you were trying to do in the first place, ie sequence to a specific point, and then at a later time continue sequencing from that point onwards without having to do the copy and paste or song lengthen operations - the question is already answered.