I have just bought some Technics disks to go with the Pop Keyboard Course used by the Technics Music Academy. I have the course books and I saw the performance disks to go with these advertised on Ebay. The disks are for a KN1000 & KN2000. When I try to load them into my KN7000 I get the message "The data on the disk that you are using is for a different product." I have also tried to load the disks in a KN3000 and KN1400 but the same thing happened. Is there any way the files can be converted so we can use them with the books? Thank you in advance for your advice.

Hi Ann,

You can do this but you have to first use your KN7000 Style Convert Disk before you put in a disk designed for the KN1000. You do have this disk, don’t you? It should have come with your keyboard. These styles are going to be all over the place in Composer. Intros will be in Fill-ins, as well as the styles, etc. You will have to go through each Variation to find the style. You may find some of the Variations blank. They will be in the recording memories but you have to look for them. They will be in Recording Memory A, B and C. You can not play them in Panel Memories as is normally done with a disk load that is designed for the later keyboards. Also, if you are not familiar with working in Composer to make the necessary sound changes, you will find this a real challenge. I have done this several times but I am one that does a lot of work in Composer. It is very challenging. Also, it is a real pain bringing up another style on the disk. You have to reinsert the Style Convert Disk to bring up each style. In other words, you can not use the Style Convert Disk once and expect to bring up all the styles on a disk.

Thank you for your reply Kitkat. I tried your suggestion but did not have any luck. I do not actually want to convert the styles, just make the sequenced files able to be played in a later keyboard. Maybe someone has another suggestion. Many thanks.

Ann, in your original post, I did not understand that you were trying to play sequenced files. You can not play sequenced files from a KN1000 into a KN7000. You would have to put them into a KN2000 and they would have to be corrected sound wise. From what I understand, you could then put them in the KN7000 but they would also require correcting. I think you are wasting your time considering this unless you are very experienced in doing this. Trying to bring up any sequenced song done in a KN1000 will not be in the KN7000 when loaded.

From what I can remember you can e.g. in theory play a KN2000 song on a later keyboard, but not step over. So you had to load the KN2000 song in a KN3000, save it and then load that in a KN5000. It worked for me in the "Old days" but not always the resul was nice music, since there features in the oldest keyboard were limited and weren't upgraded.

Regards, Fred (www.vision-4-life.nl)

Ann, if you have a Hex Editor and know how to use it, you may have some luck updating the files, but you will probably have no luck at all. Without the keyboards to step up with, as Fred stated, it's a chore. I've had some work and others that wouldn't work no matter what I did. I think Alec did a piece on changing the header codes and if so, it would be on Gunnar Jonny's web site. Probably best to put them back up for sale. Sorry.

the KN7000 can load KN2000 files directly without having to save in the intervening models, but hex editing will not help to load KN1000 sequences, since all the data will be in the wrong locations.

If Ann is referring to Technics Music Academy disks used for their Music courses I was asked to do some work on these disks many years ago, and probably still have the files somewhere. They will load into KN3000/5000/6000 so will also load into the KN7000. If my memory serves correctly there was an intro book/disk and 4 books of 2 disks each, each disk 17 to 20 tracks. The arrangements were very simple, designed for beginners and the sequences will not sound particularly well on the KN7000 since not created/mixed on it.

However if you are still interested leave an address and I can mail them to you.

Thank you to Kitkat, Fred, Bud and Alec for your replies to my query regarding the disks. Bud, your suggestion to put them back up for sale was what I thought I probably would have to do as I knew if you had problems changing these, I would have no show at all! However I hoped that Alec may have a suggestion and as usual he has. I actually bought these for my pupils to use - they have a KN1400, KN1600 and a KN3000. The disks are the Technics Music Academy disks and as they said on the outside that they were for a KN1000 & KN2000 I thought they would load on the later keyboards as I have other disks for a KN2000 that do work, but no such luck.
Yes Alec, there is an intro book and books 1 to 5 of 2 disks each. I would be very grateful if you could mail me any you have so we can use the backings with the pieces in the book on the keyboards they have at home. Please also let me know your costs so that I can reimburse you. My email is shown in my profile. Thank you very much.
This Forum was definitely the best find I have ever had when searching the internet. It doesn't seem to matter what you ask, someone is always there to help. Thank you one and all for your friendship and your willingness to share your knowledge.
Kind regards
Ann Allott


[This message has been edited by Ann in New Zealand (edited 07-26-2008).]

Hi Ann, yes the versions I was asked to work on will load into KN920, KN1500, KN3000, KN930, KN1400, KN1600, KN5000, KN6000 and KN7000 so you should be ok there.

I shall mail the zips to you, 9 zips requiring 9 floppy disks. I would format the disks in the keyboard then open the zip as a folder and drag the 51 to 60 files inside to the root of the floppy. The zips are named eg B4D1, book 4 disk 1 etc.

I just blew the dust off a usb floppy drive and actually found a floppy disk! and they do load in the KN7000, but again I must say they don't sound very good, and were meant as a graded melody learning course rather than for listening pleasure You can edit your post to remove details now

Hi Alec
Just thought I would let you know that I am on broadband if you preferred to email the zip files. Many thanks.
Ann