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#87409 - 05/21/08 04:52 AM Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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I read a breif blurb yesterday, that 60 years ago, 1948. Columbia Records introduced the 33 1/3 RPM LP. This started the end of 78's. Even when I was a child, I was still listening to vinyl.

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#87410 - 05/22/08 08:26 AM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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Bought some vinyl 33's yesterday from the place I talked to you about. POP's in Lexington...one of the largest stocks of old vinyl in the South...more than 60,000 titles. Love my old vinyl.


Be well,

Russ

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#87411 - 05/22/08 04:58 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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That's cool Russ. Although, the records I have predate vinyl. I do have a few LP's, but not too many.

Paul

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#87412 - 05/22/08 10:11 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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I think the best sounding music I've ever heard is 33 1/3 LPs played on a high quality hifi system with studio monitors. I think they out perform CDs in terms of sound quality and dynamics. They are just more fragile and inclined to wear over time. CDs really aren't better, just more convenient that's all.

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#87413 - 05/23/08 12:32 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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Timing...just cleared out some of my friends equipment today (George-died last September) and found what looks like a prestine set of Charlie Parker original disks...78's. Set is called Charlie Parker with strings. Sideman include Ray Brown and Buddy Ritch.

Nigel is right...nothing like old vinyl!

R.

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#87414 - 05/23/08 04:14 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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Well, I can't favor either one over the other, becuse I was born, when LP's were still the norm, but at the same time I remeber, when CD's were introduced. I wound up buying a lot of music on CD's, then I did on LP. Only becuse by the time I could buy music. CD's had dominated the market. I do remeber, as a child, spending a lot of time listening to my parents LP's, as well as my own.

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#87415 - 05/24/08 04:05 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nigel:
I think the best sounding music I've ever heard is 33 1/3 LPs played on a high quality hifi system with studio monitors. I think they out perform CDs in terms of sound quality and dynamics. They are just more fragile and inclined to wear over time. CDs really aren't better, just more convenient that's all.


I absolutely agree with this.
In fact I bought a lot of remastered vinyl for cd's which I also have on vinyl just out of convenience, but I recently did a side by side comparison with the same old analoge recordings and remastered recordings, and in fact there is no comparison. the vinyl sounds a lot better, if you think away the noise/rumble and crackling though

The question is of course, is this caused by technical reasons or is it caused by the remastering process or a different musical view by the person re-mastering!

Personally I think it is caused by the person doing the re-mastering, since there are cd's sounding terrific.

A good example is f.i. 'The Soul Cages" of Sting, which is a good example of a superb cd recording with analogue dynamics.
So it can be done, but you need a good master engineer not infected by compressors and limiters...
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#87416 - 05/24/08 04:32 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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What is everyones feelings on other formats? Such as Magnetic Tape ie. (Reel to Reel, Casstte 8 Track and, ADAT/DAT) and MP3's?

[This message has been edited by analogcontrolfreak (edited 05-24-2008).]

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#87417 - 05/27/08 01:14 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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During the transition to DAT, we used to record project on DAT and conventional analog. In many cases, the client preferred the warmer sound of the conventional process. Some still do, believe it or not. Occasionally, we'll be on the look-out for 2" tape.

Russ

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#87418 - 05/27/08 01:28 PM Re: Columbia Records introduces the 33 1/3 LP 1948
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You don't still use reel to reel do you?

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