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#90647 - 02/19/05 11:16 AM Tyros eq question
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So I figured out the reg systems, thanks to you guys, ( by the way, it needs some improvements)

But I was playing around wih the individaul eq settings for the drums and percussion, which seem to give the board more life, so I save it to the user 1 stetting,

It only saves to that setting on that reg, not global?

Hopefully I'm doing it wrong,

Please tell me I'm doing it wrong
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#90648 - 02/19/05 11:19 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Sorry to say, but I think you are doing it right. But maybe I missed something too.
I had most success routing the drums to the subouts 1 and 2. They come out dry, except for the effects that were using when they made the samples. Then you can e.q. the drums on the external mixer and add effects if needed.
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#90649 - 02/19/05 11:29 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Man, I was very close to making this thing sound pretty good.

So the only way is to save it to each registration,

I was trying to use the songbook mode, but looks like I would have to save each styles as a user style make all my adjustments, then use the songbook function to get the easier access.

Come on yamaha, step up and release an upgrade, like Korg
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#90650 - 02/21/05 08:22 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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[By adjusting the EQ, were you able to make the drums more dominant and can you explain how to do this?

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#90651 - 02/21/05 09:17 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Be glad to,

Well I have both the PA1xpro and the Tyros, the drums of the PA1xpro are far superior for realism compared to the Tyros, but the Tyros seems to have a better polished blend, at the same time, they get lost a little.

So once you have selected your style, hit the mixer button to the left and down from the screen,

Next page scroll to the right to EQ

Next hit mixer button until the bottom of the screen has the style parts listed,ex,,,Rythm 1, Rythm 2, Bass

Then you'll notice above that it says hi EQ, and Low EQ, they are defualt at 64, what I did was take both and go to 127 on both eq's and rythm parts, this is just enough to give that extra umph without volume but presence.

The only probelm is you can't save it globally or into the factory style. you have to save it to a registration or save the style to a user preset style
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#90652 - 02/21/05 09:33 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Actually, the change is global, but here's the deal. When you turn the keyboard off, the changes revert to normal (64). However, if you are making a registration file, and in that file you are saving the style, any changes made to the style remain in that registration. Just did it on the PSR-3000 and it works just fine.

Almost forgot--The changes also remained when I selected other styles using the normal style file selection buttons.

Cheers,

Gary

[This message has been edited by travlin'easy (edited 02-21-2005).]
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#90653 - 02/21/05 09:53 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Gary,
But, if you DO use registrations, the e.q. will have to be saved in those registrations. I think you are on to something!
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#90654 - 02/21/05 09:54 AM Re: Tyros eq question
frankieve Offline
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Didn't remain on my Tyros, everytime I picked another styles it went back to normal

Can anyone verify
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#90655 - 02/21/05 09:57 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Frankie,

Maybe it has something to do with the difference in operating systems. I thought most functions along these lines were the same on the 3000 and Tyros, but I don't know for sure.

Gary
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#90656 - 02/22/05 01:49 PM Re: Tyros eq question
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Gary,

I don't know how you're doing it, but I'd love to find out. Both Tyros and PSR3000 switch back to default when I go from Style to Style.
Frank,

Please explain to me why you wouldn't want the registration to have exclusive control of this function.



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#90657 - 02/22/05 02:17 PM Re: Tyros eq question
frankieve Offline
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It seems that every style seems to have drums that are kinda in the background, not vlume wise but eq.

The registration is a great idea but if I make 100 regs for song I do it's very hard to locate these regis while I'm playing,

So if I set them up as songbooks entries, it's easier to access.

Is there a way to direct access any registration?
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#90658 - 02/23/05 05:43 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Frankieve is right, Steve. I think the OS should have two settings. Global and Song Mode. Things Like vocal settings, EQ, Compression, etc should be Global for ALL songs, Styles, etc.

However, I can see a need at times to store EQ, Vocal Volume, Compression, etc. on a Song-by-song basis in a registration.

For example, I use a Shure SM58 microphone but I also have a very BASSy voice. I would like the Tyros to setup when powered on to EQ and set volume consistently on ALL registrations.

I hope I'm clear. Now the hard part, how do we do this?

Al
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#90659 - 02/23/05 07:03 AM Re: Tyros eq question
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Originally posted by YamahaUS1:
Gary,

I don't know how you're doing it, but I'd love to find out. Both Tyros and PSR3000 switch back to default when I go from Style to Style.
Frank,

Please explain to me why you wouldn't want the registration to have exclusive control of this function.




Steve, I wish I could explain this, but after doing it that one time, I've never been able to duplicate the process. I wish I could blame it on too much Kickapoo Joy Juice, but I can't. It did it globally, but just that one time--not since. Yes, the information does remain within the registrations, which for me that is where I would want the control. Once day, when I get more free time, I'll try to duplicate what I did again, only this time I'll write down the steps.

Gary
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