SYNTH ZONE
Visit The Bar For Casual Discussion
Topic Options
#92814 - 01/19/07 08:21 AM My First Day At NAMM 2007
George Kaye Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Arrived at 11:30AM after fighting 2 hours of traffic getting from my home to Aneheim.
For the first time, NAMM gave those with buyers badges VIP parking so at least I was really close to the convention center when I got out of my car.
Because of where I parked I walked in at the area which housed all the software exhibitors and went over to the music pad pro booth. I met my old friend Mike Garson (david bowie's keyboard player and co-song writer) who endorses the product and met the owner of the company. They have lowered the retail price from $1199 to $899 for the latest model and we talked about the problems with Music 123 dumping product and not being able to deliver what they offered. The company has now hired reps that will be opening up dealers throughout the USA and that in the future, a dealer network would be established and most likely you will not find this product in internet stores like music123. They had alot of product, had a hard time selling, and decided to dump the product at cheap prices.
Next I walked by Casio's Booth and met up with my Rep and he blew me away with several new models, all with 128NOTE POLYPHONY!
There will be a model above the Privia PX310 which is called the 410 which will sell for $595 map and be available in about a month. He then showed me a model which looked like the Privia 600 with a more home piano look with a covered keyboard and stand with 3 pedals and has over 200 sounds and will sell at about $700.00. The last one he showed me looks more like a Yamaha Clavinova or Roland KR product, all wood, big and beautifull with all new piano samples and at around $1200.00, it looked more like a $3000.00 model. By the way, I picked up a new issue of Keyboard Magazine at the show and they did a whole issue of digital pianos. The Casio's got their nod for the best value piano. They liked the Yamaha YPG625 piano for it's action and all it's other features, but they thought the Casio PX310 offered the best low priced package for sound, weight and feel.
Next I took a walk over to Behringer and their big new this year was a whole line of 100% tube Bulgera amps...They looked like marhall or vox tube amps.....at a price starting around $400. I didn't get specs, but these models looked about the size of a twin reverb. Behringer also had a newly designed line of powered mixers with more power and great new cosmetics then previous models.
A walk by where Generalmusic and Ketron always were made be sad not to see my friends Lou and Aldo at the Ketron booth. The new distributors applied to NAMM only last month and found that NAMM had given their previous area away to "finale" software. I walked past the Generalmusic booth and just looked over the products on display. My business relationship with Generalmusic ended last year and I didn't see any need for me to walk into their display.
I went up to the third floor where the Ketron area was and upon seing AJ and giving him a big hug, I met the brothers that purchased the distribution rights to sell Ketron here in the USA. Two nicer guys I have not met in this industry. Both have been invloved for many years in the electronics industry with video equipment and Kareoke equipment. We discussed the state of the Arranger market here in the USA and I was impressed with their desire to provide dealers and musicians with the necessary products and support we need. For one thing we discussed the state of the middle eastern market here in the USA and the need for certain chips loaded with styles and sounds for different ethnic customers and they assured me they were currently working on this. I told them how important it is to surround themselves with knowledgable employees who can help grow the keyboard line here in the USA. They are very much aware that some dealers just want to exploit the market by wishing to buy product and then wholesale it out to other countries and that this would not be their intentions for setting up new dealers and to just put product in stores where there were no proficient sales people with arranger keyboards would also hurt the ketron name and reputation. I look foward to see where they take this company. I'm affraid that where they were located at the show might make those looking for them think they are gone all together and I assure you they are not.
A trip to Korg and a chance to meet with the head designer from Italy and a discussion about the current PA800 and anything missing from Korg's current models for next generation models. I love that Korg is interested enough in what I and others think and are willing to take the time to sit down and discuss.
Yamaha was my last stop for the day and the MINI MO really impressed me and others. It looks like a much more expensive keyboard than it's $599 map price. And, after talking with a few of the product specialists I will now agree with many here that this is just the tip of the iceberg as for other products to eventually make their way in. It's really cool and fun to play. They should be showing up by the end of the month.
The new Motif models were equally impressive. I was shown the new mode for quarter tone tuning and the middle eastern musicians who like Korg's PA1X and PA800 system of choosing the tunings will like the Motif alot. Also, the sounds are great. I didn't spend much time listening because I have so many friends at Yamaha I spent most of my time visiting. I'll be back on Sunday to check out more thoroughly.
I was about to leave when my cell phone went off and it was Karim from Kelfar keyboards saying that he heard I came by his booth while he was on a break. I stopped by before driving home and he gave me a demo. It's a neatly packaged middle eastern keyboard called the "Ayoub". His style content is amazinging realistic and the his loops for his 60 styles are all professionaly sampled and track perfectly when tempos are changed. the layout is much like Yamaha's with an 8 track sequencer and registration memories. The keyboard looks like a typical Yamaha or Casio 61 key PSR or CTK product but with all Karim's personally sampled sounds and styles for middle eastern music. All different countries are represented with very authentic styles and sounds and quarter tone tuning. One of the best features is that when you transpose the keyboard and the quarter tone tuning is on, the transposition doesn't change the way the tuning is assigned within the key so that if you wanted the major third to be quarter tone tuned, it will not change this if you change to a different key.
The price of this keyboard should be retailing at about $695 and I think it will be the best inexpensive middle eastern keyboard available.
I didn't get to Roland. I will be there on Sunday.


------------------
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com
_________________________
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
West Hills, California
(Retired 2021)

Top
#92815 - 01/19/07 08:32 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
tony mads usa Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
George ... sounds like a busy but productive day ... sounds like you got some education and you did some good 'missionary' work for kb dealers and players ... thanks ...
Any chance for some pics?
t.
_________________________
t. cool

Top
#92816 - 01/19/07 08:37 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
George thanx for your preview review hope to hear much more by Sunday....I know many are dissapointed in some non releases from Yamaha like the S-900 so far....but I guess we'll see...btw did you take any dig pics for us?

Top
#92817 - 01/19/07 09:58 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
Esh Offline
Member

Registered: 09/22/05
Posts: 256
Loc: Hilton Head, SC, USA
George... thanks for the post.

If you get a chance to stop back by the Music Pad Pro booth, could you ask them when they are going to be releasing a new update to their v4 OS? The current version is 4.0.6 and it's pretty buggy. Freehand has gone over a year now without any updates to it's OS at all and they've been mum on their forums about it. Any word would be appreciated.

Top
#92818 - 01/19/07 10:26 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
George Kaye Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I made some mistakes with models from Casio.
The PX800 will be the new name for the 128 note polyphonic model that is portable yet looks like a small piano with roll down cover and speakers built into the stand.
Here's the specs right off their sheet:
88 full size naturally scaled hammer action keys, brand new tripple element zpi sound source with filter, 128 note polyphony, touch sensitive, new bass reflex sound system, acoustic resonance system, SD card slot, Stand included (2 x 20 watt)
Retail Price is $1199 Map price is $899
The other new model I thought to be called a PX410 is actually called PX200
All the same specs as the PX800 but with 162 tones, 20 rhythms, 72 songs, midi, usb, SD card 2 x 8watts. Retail $899 Map $699
The new model that looks like an expensive home type model is called the AP500. With all the same specs as above but in a beautiful wood cabinet with 3 pedals and 2 x30 watt system. Map is $1399
Sorry for the errors. I was at home and doing this from my head rather than looking at the sheet.


------------------
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com
_________________________
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
West Hills, California
(Retired 2021)

Top
#92819 - 01/19/07 10:36 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
abacus Online   content
Senior Member

Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5392
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi George
Seems like you had a good time, and thanks for the report, (Although I am in the UK I do enjoy finding out what’s going on elsewhere) however if you get the chance on Sunday have a look at Wersi (Booth 484) just round the corner from Ketron, as they should be showcasing the Open Art Arranger Software, (Only designed for Wersi Instruments) which amongst a stack of new features, also directly plays Yamaha Styles, (No Conversion) reports from uses who already have the software (Including some who have a Tyros 2 as well) have indicated that all the Tyros 2 Styles sound better then on the Tyros 2 itself.
Enjoy your trip on Sunday and let’s hope there is less traffic about.

Bill
_________________________
English Riviera:
Live entertainment, Real Ale, Great Scenery, Great Beaches, why would anyone want to live anywhere else (I�m definitely staying put).

Top
#92820 - 01/19/07 10:42 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
George Kaye Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Korg has also anounced that the Korg PA1XPro has been upgraded to include the MP3 encoder option and the CD-RW drive as standard equipment and no additional cost.


------------------
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com
_________________________
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
West Hills, California
(Retired 2021)

Top
#92821 - 01/19/07 09:25 PM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
Scott Langholff Online   content
Senior Member

Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by abacus:
Hi George
Seems like you had a good time, and thanks for the report, (Although I am in the UK I do enjoy finding out what’s going on elsewhere) however if you get the chance on Sunday have a look at Wersi (Booth 484) just round the corner from Ketron, as they should be showcasing the Open Art Arranger Software, (Only designed for Wersi Instruments) which amongst a stack of new features, also directly plays Yamaha Styles, (No Conversion) reports from uses who already have the software (Including some who have a Tyros 2 as well) have indicated that all the Tyros 2 Styles sound better then on the Tyros 2 itself.
Enjoy your trip on Sunday and let’s hope there is less traffic about.

Bill


I bet Yamaha will love that idea. I wonder how they will view this or if they will do anything about it.

Top
#92822 - 01/20/07 02:08 AM Re: My First Day At NAMM 2007
abacus Online   content
Senior Member

Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5392
Loc: English Riviera, UK
Hi Scott
As far as I am aware the Yamaha part is the same as the Akai and VST sections of OAS, in that you can play them so long as the manufactures trademark is advertised. (VST is the Trademark of Steinberg GMBH etc)
As to the Tyros 2 styles these are not supplied by Wersi, (Only the ability to play them or create your own) but by the dealers who have most likely downloaded them from the web and put them on a disc. (All the Tyros 2 styles are freely available on the web)
The OAA itself (Not just the Yamaha section) has been under development for about 2 years, so I am sure Wersi will have checked that it is legal. (If you were a small company like Wersi, would you want to take on a giant such as Yamaha?)
In fact if you think about it, if it was illegal then so is all the conversion software that is out there, not forgetting OMB which also uses the Yamaha style system.
BTW If you can read German the manual can be downloaded here. (There are plenty of pictures) http://www.wersi.net/Handbuch_OA-A_1.Aufl._2007.01.16.pdf and the brochure here http://www.wersi.net/INFOBLATT_OAA.pdf

Bill
_________________________
English Riviera:
Live entertainment, Real Ale, Great Scenery, Great Beaches, why would anyone want to live anywhere else (I�m definitely staying put).

Top

Moderator:  Admin, Diki, Kerry 



Help keep Synth Zone Online