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#93296 - 03/30/06 03:31 PM JBL Eon 15Ps
bthmedicinetree Offline
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Had another question but wanted to change that last far off topic thread...
The JBL Eon 15Ps im using are so loud that I dont really need to run through my mixer, is it OK to just use one cable from L/mono on the keyboard to the speaker, and do the same for the other keyboard, so each speaker controls a keyboard and its in mono? I'm going to be competing with heavy guitars, bass and drums so the stereo sound isnt that important right? And the speakers will be within 2-3 feet of each other on stage...

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#93297 - 03/30/06 04:14 PM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
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Lately, I've been playing around with some amps, testing different connections and things like that. To my ear, I don't like the sound when its coming from L/R, especially for the pianos, and also on some sax and guitars. But from what you said about your situation, it sounds like your volume takes precedence over the quality.

I think you can have both (vol, quality) thru the mixer. Is your mixer powered and/or too big, or mainly for vocals? Why would you not want the mixer and the convenience of its controls right next to you?

Your setup is twice as complex as mine, i'm using 1 keyboard, and i find the most satisfaction using both channels with the ability to make a quick turn-of-the-knob tweek for the mids or highs thru the mixer.
I think under high volume like you noted, those highs tend to really blair out when they need a minor tweek.

But...
Its no problem to run it the way you explained, if its sounding good to you.

Get the guys together and test-drive those drivers in mono and then all 4 channels thru the mixer, and let me know how it works out. I've got a couple of outdoor things coming up this summer and and the amplification needs are my biggest concern for that.

Good Luck.



[This message has been edited by MrEd (edited 04-08-2006).]

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#93298 - 04/03/06 08:11 AM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
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It seems the only tweaking I do on my mixer is gain, and now with these speakers they seem incredibly loud so I don't think I'll need it. I do, however, like the idea of mixing both signals to each speaker rather than one through each speaker...I don't know if the mixer is powered, it needs to be plugged in, does that mean its powered?This is the one I have:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=630048

So I will benefit using this instead of running the KBs through one speaker each in mono? Also, I'm using a Hosa XLR to 1/4" adaptor on the back of the JBL speakers, this doesnt affect the quality of sound does it?

[This message has been edited by bthmedicinetree (edited 04-03-2006).]

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#93299 - 04/03/06 08:22 AM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
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Your mixer doen't have a power amp, so it will be fine for what you want to do.
You should have no problem doing what you are describing as long as you don't need e.q. between the keyboards and the JBLs.
To me, the simplest way is the best way.
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#93300 - 04/03/06 08:31 AM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
bthmedicinetree Offline
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DonM, you mean running just one cable from the KB into the JBL (mono)? I don't need any EQ at all, the only thing that concerns me is the stereo vs. mono sound. I'm playing with 2 heavy guitars and a bass and drums so its very noisy, do you think stereo will really make a difference?
I'd much rather run them mono with one cable since it will be a hell of alot easier, but I won't sacrifice if the sound is severly lacking. I'd try before asking, but I need to buy 2 more instrument cables to try to run it stereo through the mixer.

[This message has been edited by bthmedicinetree (edited 04-03-2006).]

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#93301 - 04/03/06 10:54 AM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
bthmedicinetree Offline
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I've been searching on google but can't find anything about the advantages of stereo over mono when playing live with a loud band...perhaps its too specific for a search engine...can anyone offer advice?
I don't want to buy more cables if the difference is not noticable...

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#93302 - 04/03/06 04:37 PM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
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The debate between mono and Stereo is perpetual. You will have opinions both ways. My opinion only is, that since the stereo field, or sweet spot, is relatively small, and since you are playing with a band, mono is fine.

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#93303 - 04/04/06 07:21 PM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
bthmedicinetree Offline
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Well I tried playing in both mono and in stereo through the mixer, and I have to say I can hear some difference in stereo, so I'll be using the mixer I think.
thanks for all the help, im sure ill be back with more questions haha

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#93304 - 04/05/06 08:13 AM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
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You can hear the difference, because you are in the "sweet spot". Also, some sounds from your keyboard may be optimized for stereo. Usually if you really want to run mono, the sounds can be edited to sound good in momo.
It was necessary for me to modify a few sounds on the Midjay to get it to sound best through the Bose PAS, which is not stereo.
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#93305 - 04/05/06 10:14 AM Re: JBL Eon 15Ps
bthmedicinetree Offline
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Registered: 09/22/05
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Loc: cranston, RI, USA
Well, I'm not even so much concerned with the slight sound difference, I'd rather run in mono for the convenience in fact...however, I'm going to be running some sound samples through my laptop live, so I think I'll need the mixer to throw that into the mix...unless someone can think of another, more convenient way....

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