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#93940 - 03/20/05 10:23 PM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
Pennywizz6 Offline
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Registered: 11/10/04
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Loc: Shakopee, MN, USA
Fantom + Arranger?.... Drools

Phil

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#93941 - 03/20/05 10:43 PM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
BlkNotes Offline
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Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 220
Dear Penny;

Apparently this combination exists currently. Use the Fantom arranger together with a software package like, OMB, or Live Styler. Viola, a synthesizer with arranger capabilities.

I completely agree with Wazza & Genesys. The future is in softsynth arrangers that are modular based. Thus allowing for complete customization, and fututre upgrade abiltiy.

Regards;
BN

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#93942 - 03/20/05 10:58 PM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 1247
Loc: New York
Quote:
Originally posted by BlkNotes:
Apparently this combination exists currently. Use the Fantom arranger together with a software package like, OMB, or Live Styler. Viola, a synthesizer with arranger capabilities.


Now we're talking. This would greatly interest me. Could somone please enlighten me as to OMB or arranger software (uh, for the mac). I've seen some postings about it recently, but I've never actually seen one of these programs in action. Which is the best software to look at? And is it as good as what I'd get on my Tyros - ie: 4 fully customable variations with 5 fill ins, three intros and ends, regos, multipads etc etc? If it is, this might be where I should be heading...

Please enlighten!

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#93943 - 09/27/05 04:37 AM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
smythrocks Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 10
Loc: Rochester Hills, MI. USA
Sounds like you guys might want to look at the Korg OASYS. Keyboard Mag has a very good review this month. Jordan Rudess uses one with his work with Dream Theater.

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Originally posted by Wazza:
Chony,

Personally I would love to see an arranger merged with a synth workstation (a keyboard that has huge sampling memory, fully editable sounds, arpeggiators, styles, large waverom, lots of knobs and sliders).
I think its about time, c'mon we live in the 21st century, I really think that this arranger "home"-keyboard vs "professional" synth workstation thing has lasted long enough, I think its time to actually create a keyboard that can be a synth and an arranger at the same time, but then again, this whole hardware synth/arranger system is very inefficient.
Take the Openlabs Neko for instance, you can put your own sounds & synth engines on it, and probably even run auto arranger software on it as well.
What I want to see is a hardware keyboard, with a custom designed OS just for music software, and new standards for style formats, sequence formats, sound libraries, something like a 21st century GM/XG system, effects etc.
So you can combine any soundset with your own styleset, own sequencer, own effects and the list goes on.
You dont like they way your keyboard sounds? just install a different or newer soundset.
you dont have to buy a completely new keyboard for it .
I really hope to see more Neko-like keyboards in the future, and that they will create some standards and formats for them.
But I can only hope .

Greetz ,
Marcel

[This message has been edited by Wazza (edited 03-20-2005).]

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#93944 - 09/27/05 06:24 AM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
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#93945 - 09/27/05 06:40 AM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
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Guys Yamaha tried something very close to this around 1996. It was called the QS-300. Of course the public wasn't ready for it then, but I think with all the positive reviews arrangers have been getting, the time is right to make one.

Squeak
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#93946 - 09/28/05 06:34 AM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
Booby Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 107
Hi,

> Make sure that they build in enough RAM to load in good samples, and allow upgrade slot for even more RAM capability!!!! for those who do alot of sampling or want to be able to use very high quality samples on the keyboard. (i.e. 32mgs ram for samples in todays age is nothing).

remember that bigger is not always better. I've hear gigabites of samples sounding as rubbish and small Mb samples but well done (one example: Akai - Miroslav Vitous series)
sounding wonderful. It's a matter of ability more than the size in my opinion.
And remember also that what's in ram must be loaded at the startup, so take care also of this point if you don't want to go at the gig 2 hours in advance only to have your sonic arsenal ready to go ! :-)

Just my 0,001%°

Cheers.

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#93947 - 09/28/05 12:44 PM Re: New idea for the Tyros 2
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
One thing we should all be screaming for is faster load times for sample memory. What's the point in having 512MB of RAM if it takes 30min to load up? The keyboard industry is notoriously slow in adopting newer computer standards. USB 2.0 should be the MINIMUM for sample loading (or Firewire, especially on mLan equipped keyboards). Hell, half the samplers out there still use SCSI narrow! My K2500 is still one of the faster loaders out there at @1MB/sec.

Time to move on up, everybody.
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