There are many points of view and we should not get discouraged because of them. I think we need to be a bit more strong to withstand some of that to boraden our horizon. As long as we are civil about it. Just like there is Korg, Yamaha or Roland fans - different point of views. If we close our mind, we might be missing out !

Ian: I think if you see a genuine miracle, you will think very hard not to believe God. I saw things created out of thin air and it is not a magic trick. If you see a familiar man without eye for years(just empty socket) and then receives a brand new eye instantly and see the man on the next service as a different man, I think that would make any Atheist think very hard. I see many things like these and you can too if you are willing to look and invest a bit of time (not a whole lot) and look in the right places will help a lot too. If you close to Hayward, California, I will be glad to show you around. BTW, I witnessed amazing miracles in the circles of Pentecostals, Charismatics, Catholics and other circles as well - these are Christian circles.