isnt any computer basically open ended if you have the skills to programme it ? Therefore if i had a lap top and the knowhow i could buy a midi keyboard controller and do all the functions that either the Neko or MS/Groovebox or what have you can do. But this is the problem with Open System type keyboards and its not about understanding the concept. Its about the ridiculous choice of target market for the product in terms of Doms marketing here on th arranger keyboard forum!!

You cant aim a product like this at this forum (read the title of the forum) and expect people not to ask what this product is for. If Neko and the MS can be used in such a way as to make music production easier , more fluid and natural (you know like how musicians generally like to make music) then show me that and i will run with it. But when someone like Miden who i have genuine respect for and who certainly gives the impression that he knows quite a bit about music production from a hardware and software perspective gives an actual review of a liontracs open system product , i sit up and listen. Do a search and read the review and then talk about 'proof of concept' again.

I am not having a go at you Sharp. I have plenty of respect for you both here and on the Korg forum.

There have been other people who have given opinions on the product both positive and negative who NEVER ACTUALLY OWNED OR USED THE PRODUCT and it not that their opinions are not valid. They are simply not truly qualified. There have been others who actually owned an MS open system product and achieved moderate success with it as a musical instrument but not actually used the instrument in anyway other than a VST host.

I am not knocking the Groovebox. Afterall what the hell do we know about what this instrument is for ? I mean we have had two pages of discussion based upon just two pictures of what looks like a new colour for the mediatstaion ...... How is it diferentiated from the very bad reputation mediastation ? whats it USP (Unique selling Proposition ? And if the MS is an open system cant the same ends be achieved by the MS ????

And we all know what a storming envelope pushing, seamless and inspirational instrument that was .........right ?????

[This message has been edited by spalding (edited 10-24-2009).]