Hi cgiles .

Give it time and you will get to know me better. You will never need to apologize to me because if something is said on either side it will ever only be a misunderstanding. Nobody is looking for a fight and we all have our opinions on every subject. We all just need to respect that so we can have a good old chat about any subject.

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It's even ok for you to try to turn public sentiment against me for suggesting that the majority of forum members were probably not into experimental, trance, trip hop, etc., etc


This is partly a misunderstanding because the sounds were emulations of 70's and 80's synths playing an 80's tune by Irish band U2. I grew up listening to all this type of music and Trance of today has not really changed that much from what is Electronic of the 80's. The sequencing is the same, the only thing that has really changed is the harshness of the sounds you can get away with now.

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My only question is, What is YOUR interest in ARRANGERS and arranger-related things? From what I can gather, you mostly produce customized (tweaked) sounds and other-worldly musical landscapes and your primary tools are the Korg M3 and the Korg Oasys, both nice instruments, BTW, but hardly bread-and-butter arrangers.


I own KORG Forums but my interest in arrangers is more in the real world than online. I'm the only guy in about a 80 mile radius that does all the programming for Arranger users regardless of make and model. I actually do all the programming for KORG users and at times I will help out selling keyboards regardless of the make or model.

I also teach people how to use everything on their keyboard as well as other stuff like style conversions to help people move from one make of keyboard to another. So in the real world ( not online ) I actually spend quite a bit of time with arrangers, more so than I do with Workstations.

Tonight I even have to go to a pub about 9pm to connect Mini Disk recorder to a guys KORG Pa1X / Mixing desk so the band can record themselves playing live.

Where I live there are more arranger users that Workstation users, so I am probably more involved with them overall than the individuals playing them.

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Is it possible that an 'open system' may be a good (or even the best) approach for synths and workstations but not for an arranger (ie, plugging great sounds into a style or sequence doesn't always produce the best result). Just asking. Is it possible?


It's a yes and no answer, sorry.

Out of the box a closed arranger will sound better hands down because there is no such thing as an arranger computer program (VSTi) that has it's own sound engine. So the styles the arranger software will come with will not sound 100% right when simply connected to a really good VSTi synth application.

But for VSTi sounds you can far exceed the Arranger keyboard sounds instantly with no effort whatsoever because the VSTi Synths come complete just like a closed keyboard does.

So the only way to greatly surpass the closed arranger with an open keybaord doing arranger functions is to pair the arranger software with a VSTi full of bread and butter sounds and then start adjusting the volumes of the tracks and maybe even changing to different sounds.

Without that the open arranger will sound inferior, but with that it will greatly surpass the closed arranger.

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Sorry I ruffled your feathers, James. You certainly wouldn't be the first. But I do ask people to read what I write (hopefully twice) before (over)reacting to it.


Not at all, don't worry about it. When it doubt about what I'm saying just ask me to elaborate and explain myself. Sometimes my fingers don't type things the way my brain is seeing them.

Regards
James

[This message has been edited by Irishacts (edited 10-24-2009).]