"And most professionals already have EQ's and compressors fro their PA's and studios. But putting these sonic hand grenades in the hands of newbies and home players is a recipe for confusion and dissatisfaction. I think I'm reading a fair bit of evidence for this, don't you agree?"

Careful Diki. I certainly dont agree. I am a home and church player and certainly not a professional but i know when something on a keyboard is working or not .

The speaker modeling function on the 3 E80's i tried did not improve the sound. I had a roland product specialist right next to me today and he messed around with the EQ settings and in particular the drums and bass and got the same results as me. I guess he was not professional enough or maybe he was a home player moonlighting as a Roland product specialist ?????

Many of the members here are not able to actually audition these instruments in real life. I am in the fortunate position to do just that. Do you think its just bad luck that 3 out of 3 Roland E80 come shipped with poorly EQ'd speaker systems ? I wish others cold hear what i have heard because there would be no doubt.

The point that i am making is that maybe, just maybe the e80 speaker system needs an OS upgrade ???? I remember having similar discussions with G70 owners when it first came out and how the G70 was such a powerful tool that once tweaked would sound better than anything else on the planet. And then we had this BS thread about how some instruments needed skill to use and that home players prefered the out the box sound whilst the "pros" wanted to personalise The sound and people tweaked and tweaked and tweaked until somebody realised how much efort they had put into an instrument that could not sound well after ALL that tweaking because it NEEDED AN OS UPGRADE.

I said the same thing then that i am saying now, Roland need to manufacture a product ready for the market and should not expect its customers to finish the job that they started and pay for the priviledge !!

This feelslike dejavu

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