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#123298 - 09/06/04 03:29 AM PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
MacAllcock Offline
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Whats the state-of-play regarding compatability (or not) of USB Storage devices with the PSR3k / 1.5k?

I'm still saving for my 3k but the purchase after that is likely to be a 512 megabyte Usb solid-state storage device (Lexar?)
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#123299 - 09/06/04 06:19 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
travlin'easy Offline
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I don't understand your question.

Gary
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#123300 - 09/06/04 06:26 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
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Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
I don't understand your question.

Gary


Neither do I...

Luis Santos

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#123301 - 09/06/04 06:48 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
MacAllcock Offline
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Oh!

I was trying to be brief and succinct!

The PSR3000 and PSR1500 have USB "Host" capability, and I understand that you can plug various USB devices into this port, included solid-state memory devices.

Before the forums' recent hard disc problem there were some postings regarding the use of such devices; some people had no problems whilst others were not so lucky.

So I would be interested to know how successful all you people have been regarding the use of USB Storage devices, so that I can come to some sort of decision regarding the safe maximum capacity of any such devices, and also whether any particular brand is better or worse than any other. I am especially interested in the use of 512 megabyte capacity devices, and wonder if "Lexar" are a reliable brand.

I hope that's a better explanation!
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#123302 - 09/06/04 09:04 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Luis.Santos Offline
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I understand now!

Sorry but I can't help you because I haven't a PSR 3000... I'm sure any owner of a PSR3000 will help you.

Luis Santos

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#123303 - 09/06/04 09:22 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
DonM Offline
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I don't believe the capacity of the drive makes any difference to the keyboard. I know Hank The Lurker's 3000 works great with his 128m drive.
I'm sure Gary D. will answer, but I think he just purchased a larger drive, either 256 or 512.
My experience with Lexar has all been good.
DonM
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#123304 - 09/06/04 10:17 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
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Absolutely the most fantastic breakthrough in keyboards in two decades. No problems with both a 128 and 256-meg thumb drive, instant access to thousands of styles, voices, registrations or midis and the price of the drive is downright cheap. The 3000 also has been an amazing keyboard and has an outstanding operating system that is very user friendly.

Gary
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#123305 - 09/06/04 10:31 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Luis.Santos Offline
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Yes, I think it's really a great feature!...
On my SD1 all the stuff is on the Harddrive, so whenever I want to make a backup of everything I have to use floppy discs (but that's not reliable) or connect the keyboard to the computer and make a direct copy. I wish my SD1 could support USB!

Luis Santos

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#123306 - 09/06/04 01:47 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
mikeathome1 Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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I have a PNY attache 128 mb and it works great.
Just got my 3000 this weekend haven't had enough time to play with it but I did use the flash drive just to see how that would work.

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#123307 - 09/06/04 02:19 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
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I have a 128 mb Pen drive. Quick and easy to store and transfer styles, mids and registrations.

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#123308 - 09/06/04 03:12 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
jm_bogey Offline
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I have a "sandisk - mini cruiser 128Meg".
It's work fine, no problem.
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#123309 - 09/06/04 04:06 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Uncle Dave Offline
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Mine does NOT recognize my 20GB USB hard drive, but I didn't really expect it to. The thumb drives and the SM card work flawlessly.
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#123310 - 09/07/04 01:24 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
MacAllcock Offline
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Thanks folks
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#123311 - 09/07/04 05:13 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
leilatara Offline
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I have used an IBM Microdrive 1Gb with no problem.

Uncle Dave - YOur hard drive probably does not work because it is formatted with NTFS. The USB device will only work with FAT format.

Mike P
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#123312 - 09/07/04 05:26 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Dnj Offline
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I use a Lexar 256 meg Jump Drive ....Excellent!!

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#123313 - 09/07/04 08:29 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Uncle Dave Offline
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That could be it, thanx Mike! I don't need it .... but I tried to dump some files from it directly and couldn't.
I keep all my midi files on a 128MB SM card, and I have the USB drive for backup or transfers. I prefer the SM so it doesn;t have to get put in and out each showtime. The card just lives in there like a hard drive.
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#123314 - 09/07/04 08:57 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
travlin'easy Offline
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Good idea Dave. Sounds like the way to go for both midi and 3rd party style files as well. The USB drive sticking out the back of the keyboard works great, but I'm always afraid of bumping it and breaking the connector. Guess I'll pick up a SM card tomorrow.

Gary
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#123315 - 09/07/04 09:01 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
mdorantes Offline
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Today I purchased a USB flopy drive Memorex, I just plug it into the PSR 1500/3000, turn on the keyboard and there it was, truly a Plug and Play....no like in the old days....Plug and Pray.....LOL>.

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#123316 - 09/07/04 10:37 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
leilatara Offline
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You could also, like me, plug in a USB card reader/writer at the USB port. I have a multi-card one that allows me to use a SmartMedia card, Compact Flash (up to microdrive) and SD card, etc. Oodles of memories and can be sorted into different categories, e.g., Midi, Styles, Voices etc. for instant access. I also have the 128Mb SM card in situ at the front. For all of these I transfer files back and forth to and from my computer using the excellent Musicsoft Downloader program that comes from Yamaha free.

Mike P
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#123317 - 09/08/04 01:02 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
MacAllcock Offline
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I intend to leave the SM card permanently in the slot and use a USB device as backup and to hold any obscure stuff that doesn't merit being held on the "main" storage.

On the other hand everything I consider as "main", "possible" or "only if someone slips me a tenner" stuff will all fit easily on a 128 meg SM card so perhaps my brain is getting overexited at the though of having so much capacity available directly (Owners of boards with in-build hard disc are allowed to smile smugly to themselves at this point).

Once again, I thank you!
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#123318 - 09/08/04 04:11 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Jerryghr Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
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I plug the cable that came with my usb drive in the back of the keyboard to eliminate the wear and tear caused by switching between the drive and the computer. It's cheaper to replace the cable than repair the socket in the back of the keyboard. Also it does not stick out as far and allows me to do all the swapping in front of the keyboard. I also use the smartmedia card as a backup. Few people seem to realize that flashdisk "wear" each time it is read/written to.
They only guarantee 10 000 read/writes on the cheaper ones.

Jerry

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#123319 - 09/08/04 06:37 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Uncle Dave Offline
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When the SM card wears out ..... throw it out and load up an new one. This is a disposable society, and kbs and computers are the worst offenders.
I doubt that I'll write 10,000 times on this anyway ..... heck - I may not PLAY this thing 10,000 times! That would suggest that I have to actually keep it for a few months, right ?
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#123320 - 09/08/04 10:55 AM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Jerryghr Offline
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I did some quick calculations on the use of the flash drive.

20 songs per set X 4 sets = read 80 times minimum in an evening.

80 times 4 days per week = 240 times

240 times 52 weeks = 12480 times.

This is not counting the times used to program and save registrations, changes made to the registrations, practice time etc.

Better have a backup with you at all times.

Jerry

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#123321 - 09/08/04 12:10 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Uncle Dave Offline
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Oh, you mean ACCESS! I thought you meant writing to and copying from the drive.
Boy, that'd suck if it wears out in just a year or so.
Where'd you hear that statistic, Jer???
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#123322 - 09/08/04 05:26 PM Re: PSR3k USB Drive Compatability
Jerryghr Offline
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Dave,

You're right.

I may have to stand corrected.
The ads state anywhere from 10,000 to 1,000,000 cycles depending on brand and quality. In tryng to find the data to support what a cycle consists of, I have read conflicting reports from various sources, however most manufacturers state write/erase cycles.

Jerry

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