...which would these be (and why)? Please no argument as to which style(s) is/are better ... simply your view on which 50 styles you would prefer to see in your ideal keyboard.

Thanks,

AJ

PS: You may also include Sounds Arranger Workstations GENERALLY need to improve on.

For me, hands down "Dance" or more preferably,"Trance",it's the only genre i tinker with.

10 - soft latin
20 - pop/rock 8/16 beat
10 - dance
10 - funk/soul

and then i would load other 50...

about the sounds: electric distortion guitars, drums, violas, cellos, violins, vocal ooos, aaas, hum.
and some acoustic guitars frets and pianos dynamics.

and generally, i think the way SA works is a good way to go. but still needs more imrpouvment.

why these styles? simply because this is my type of music. i think that would be the only answer, not only from me.

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Authentic 50's-60's, Country-Western, Rock, Standards, Blues.
No need for what they now call Dance, or hip-hop or rap. Different strokes!
DonM

I would probably want the 50 best

20 - Pop/Ballads
20 - Praise and worship
7 - Rock
3 - 3/4 time (non-waltz)

Organ voices on my PSR3K. I rarely use them, because they are so poor. Most members on the Zone say Ketron does a good job on organs. Roland and Casio do an excellent job as well.
Starkeeper

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5 good soft ballad standards
5 good swing/bop small group
5 good big band
5 good funk/blues
5 good latin jazz
5 good trad latin son, salsa,mambo, rhumba etc..
5 good bossa nova/samba
5 good RnB
5 good International
5 dance

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Miami Mo

I actually don't even know if this question is relevant. The answers will be all over the map. I want country, rock, pop and folk styles but how many people who buy arrangers have that mix as a priority?

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Bill
SmallGig.com

mellow but full jazz guitar(as opposed to tries at Wes Montgomery sound) ONE real Rhodes sound,please!!!! flamenco guitar, jazz organs(one absolutely great Jimmy Smith. please!!!!)steel drums, acoustic jazz bass, vocalese (never heard any as good as technics great "Female doo-wah")

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Miami Mo

I would go with a mix of jazz, light latin and small-ensemble swing styles. I'd really like to see an arranger with styles that focused on real-world small groups (as in trios and quartets) instead of trying to sound like some huge band with lots of horns and stuff. I mean really - it just looks a little silly to see someone push a button and suddenly sound like Frank Sinatra's full orchestra - it always has and it always will. All that's needed is some basic backing like drums/percussion, bass and light jazz guitar comps. 50 styles that emulated a small tasteful combo would be excellent.

As to sounds - that's easy: the ultimate General MIDI (GM) collection. GM is still a great concept but so many manufacturers have stocked it with poor quality sounds or ignored it altogether. GM keyboards are compatible with tons of software and existing SMF's but noone has yet created the ultimate GM sound set. Besides GM, I would put serious development into the real-world basic keyboard sounds: acoustic/electric pianos and a quality organ/leslie emulation. Without those, you don't have a sale.

I totally agree! Except that I would not limit it to jazzy stuff.

Often, when I use midi's, I turn off most channels and it's down to what a 4-man band would play. Add me playing over the top of that base and it's a 5-piece band. There are a few songs that I use the entire huge band sound because the midi or style is just so good, but a few sounds is much more real.



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Bill
SmallGig.com

10 ballad
10 worship/unplugged
10 symphonic/ classical (without rhythm)
10 latin
10 jazz fusion/swing/big band

AMEN to Esh's idea for a super GM set. There's one need that's not been met by any company.

Make sure the Latins include some good old fashioned Rumbas & Cha-Chas.

Country styles should include several older/traditional country as well as newer country.

Glenn

DITTO

10 Reggae
10 Louisiana styles (Zydeco, 2nd Line, Cajun)
30 'Live' type styles. A good cross section of beats, but simple accompaniment with lots of drummer attitude....

I agree I dislike styles that sound unrealistically 'big'. I would MUCH rather have a great tight rhythm section and add the 'big' myself if I need it. Yes, I know you can always mute parts, but usually the rhythm section reflects the whole style, the bigger the arrangement, the simpler the rhythm parts get, not what I'm looking for......

I agree with much of what's already been said. What if arranger players could build, or select the various options like that on the automobile web sites? What if we could opt-out of "world" styles, or whatever, depending on our preferences and client market, and replace them with a select menu of factory styles of our own choosing? If that were possible, I'd chunk about half of the Tyros 2 styles that never get used, at least by me.

Hmmm, so if we were to give you an Arranger Workstation with enough RAM memory to hold say 500 styles at MAP ~ $2500.00 and you were to spend another ~$500.00 to CUSTOMIZE the STYLES with your favorite 300 styles downloadable from our website, would this be an option? This way, you build your own style library from say 800 styles to choose from? Ofcourse you can always load in xxx bonus styles in PATTERN memory.

NB: The Arranger Workstation would come without styles to start with... simply the locations. As for the degree of complexity of the style, the new ARR MUTE (on the SD5) instantly mutes tracks assigned (under ARRANGER VIEW - PAGE 5/5) so you have more control over the 'complexity' of the style. The Interactive Arranger also mutes selected chord parts ONLY when you play lead sections ... this way, you are not in constant 'battle' with your keyboard.

Thanks,

AJ

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
[B]Hmmm, so if we were to give you an Arranger Workstation with enough RAM memory to hold say 500 styles at MAP ~ $2500.00 and you were to spend another ~$500.00 to CUSTOMIZE the STYLES with your favorite 300 styles downloadable from our website, would this be an option? This way, you build your own style library from say 800 styles to choose from? Ofcourse you can always load in xxx bonus styles in PATTERN memory.

NB: The Arranger Workstation would come without styles to start with... simply the locations. As for the degree of complexity of the style, the new ARR MUTE (on the SD5) instantly mutes tracks assigned (under ARRANGER VIEW - PAGE 5/5) so you have more control over the 'complexity' of the style. The Interactive Arranger also mutes selected chord parts ONLY when you play lead sections ... this way, you are not in constant 'battle' with your keyboard.

Thanks,

AJ, The only thing that concerns me is, “Will my playing keep improving? Or am I spending more time with the buttons or the black and white keys?

Only what came to my mind, John C.