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#221353 - 11/07/05 03:40 PM What will replace the PSR3000 ?
Dnj Offline
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Any Idea ?

I would assume some of the T2 features will be incorporated.....eg: SA sounds, HD record etc etc ...

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-07-2005).]

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#221354 - 11/07/05 05:23 PM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
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It's gonna' take one hell of a keyboard at an incredible price to replace mine! I suspect there will be a 3100 or some similar model number in the next six months, but it would really need to have some incredible features, styles, memory, sunlight viewable screen, and all the megavoice features of the T2. And this wonderful package would have to be priced under $1,500--that's a tall order.

I won't hold my breath waiting for this one to come along.

Gary

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#221355 - 11/07/05 06:27 PM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
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I'm interested too. The PA80 is still a great board to me for good sounding arranger styles and electronic / synth type lead voices, but I think it's rather weak on some of the acoustic lead voices. I thought the PSR 2000 was well ahead of it for the non electric lead voices.

I've incorporated quite a bit of singing and playing "acoustically" in my live act, so the PA80's weakness ( or at least my perception of it ) has become glaring to me. I more than make up for it with the AJ2006 soft arranger and the Motif, but sometimes, especially for quick setups and breakdowns, or at venues where space is at a premium, I'd like to have one arranger that fits most of my needs. Could it be the 3k or it's successor ? Hmmm maybe. Still have to live with less than ideal ( for me ) key response if I go that route.

The other choices would include either version of the Tyros, a PA1x ( but are the lead voices that much better than the PA80 ? ), a G70 or SD1 ( will I ever be to see either of those before I buy ? ).

AJ

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#221356 - 11/07/05 07:24 PM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
It's gonna' take one hell of a keyboard at an incredible price to replace mine! I suspect there will be a 3100 or some similar model number in the next six months, but it would really need to have some incredible features, styles, memory, sunlight viewable screen, and all the megavoice features of the T2. And this wonderful package would have to be priced under $1,500--that's a tall order.

I won't hold my breath waiting for this one to come along.

Gary



Hahahahaaha......Comon, you know you'll be first on line for the new PSR3100

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#221357 - 11/08/05 02:35 AM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
Stephenm52 Offline
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I hear there are going to be 76 semi weighted keys on the 3100 I like dreamin'!!!

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#221358 - 11/08/05 03:33 AM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by Stephenm52:
I hear there are going to be 76 semi weighted keys on the 3100 I like dreamin'!!!



I doubt the 76 key's........too bad ;(

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#221359 - 11/08/05 03:46 AM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
to the genesys Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
Any Idea ?

I would assume some of the T2 features will be incorporated.....eg: SA sounds, HD record etc etc ...

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-07-2005).]


Hopefully a T2 module!!!
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#221360 - 11/08/05 04:46 AM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by to the genesys:
Hopefully a T2 module!!!


Now your really asking for the moon
Yamaha just wont address the pro's issues or many wants & needs of their users....judging by what has been release in the last few years, boy Im glad their are other choices Its too early in the morning to get aggravated

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#221361 - 11/08/05 06:14 AM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
to the genesys Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Now your really asking for the moon
Yamaha just wont address the pro's issues or many wants & needs of their users....judging by what has been release in the last few years, boy Im glad their are other choices Its too early in the morning to get aggravated


Well if there were to be a Tyros 2 module it does not even have to have everything that the keyboard version of the T2 has.

It could be a scale down version of the T2, eliminating some things like the internet connectivity, maybe have just one USB port, maybe even half the styles.

But keep the features a gigging professional would need. Make sure it is light (a rack module not a desk top module) and price it at or below $1500.

See if Yamaha were smart they would use the sound innovations of the Tyros 2, and the increasing popularity/awareness of T2 and arrangers in general to get further in to the mainstream professional music market so that they would buy some sort of a T2.

A gigging musician who may have a workstation from one of the big 3 Yamaha, Korg or Roland, may not necessary go and buy a T2 keyboard but if it is in a module form and strategically priced, they would be more inclined to get it. They did it with their Motif. And with Yamaha’s willingness to market, people would hear about it.

It should be geared for the gigging professional musician (the ones who probably have some type of workstation and are not lazy to do the necessary preparation and keyboard programming for a gig) so the styles, sounds and effects must be fully editable.


The good thing about this is that they would not loose any customers because those who want everything setup for them in one keyboard will get the Tyros 2 full keyboard version.
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#221362 - 11/08/05 06:33 AM Re: What will replace the PSR3000 ?
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I'm still mildly surprised that none of the big three has incorporated a modular approach for at least one model, so that the buyer can add the main functions of choice.

Sure they add plug ins for sounds and even analog modeling modules, but what about being able to add a Tyros arrangers functions to a workstation ala the Motif ES ( but fully expandable ), or a hardware module with PA1x arranger functions or another with the karma functions for the Triton Extreme ( without having to spend 8 grand for an Oasys and possibly paying for many things you won't ever use ).

It's probably fodder for another thread but looking at the kb manufacturers and their corporate structures I can't help but think of it as a microcosm of life in general in today's times. We are blessed with so much technology and conveniences that many of us couldn't have dreamed of a few decades back.

Still, I kinda miss the days when you could build a modular synth from ( or almost from ) scratch, and readily be able to find parts, or when I could walk into a Radio Shack and actually find enough parts to build an entire ham Radio station that worked and was different from what the next guy had. Today every moderate to large sized town looks pretty much the same to me. They all have the same chain stores with the same inventory whether I'm in NY, Pa, or Florida, and it seems there are very few little guys with specialty items that can make it in a storefront today. Every radio and TV station has a clone in another market, or so it seems. Not good times for the "rugged individualists" I'm afraid. Sorry for the temporary hijack of your thread Donny. I'm off the soapbox for now

AJ
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