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#274690 - 10/29/09 04:33 PM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
Sorry Chas,

Corporate paperwork makes me 6-8 weeks out until any Roland product could start rolling in

Frank

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#274691 - 10/29/09 06:46 PM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I don't sell the VP-550 or the 770. When I had a VP-550 I tried it, liked it, but thought it was way to expensive so I returned it. In this economic slowdon the past few years I've stayed away from the high end synth workstations because very few pros are buying them. The stores that have them are really sitting on them. I carry the Roland juno Di and the Roland Juno G but that's the extent of my in stock inventory of Roland Synths and in Korg I only stock their arrangers now as well. Times are tough!


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#274692 - 10/29/09 08:36 PM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Not a problem, guys. You're right about the economy, George. Hope it picks up for everybody, soon.

T2, anyone? Probably less than 15 hrs playing time. Flawless. Make me an offer. Original everything. Upgraded memory. If anyone buys it, I'll probably get a M3 (or Nord Electro 3).

chas
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#274693 - 10/30/09 03:37 AM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
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Roland used to be terrible about trailing products way ahead of supply. Anyone else who was in the trade at the time remember the U-220 débâcle?

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#274694 - 10/30/09 09:52 AM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
Chas
How about a trade with my Nord Electro2
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum29/HTML/002677.html

Bernie
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#274695 - 10/30/09 10:13 AM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
hitman Offline
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Registered: 12/03/04
Posts: 325
Loc: VA/ USA
Chas, send me an E-mail to joop081@cox.net

I am interested in the Tyros 2.

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#274696 - 10/30/09 11:29 AM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Bernie9:
Chas
How about a trade with my Nord Electro2
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum29/HTML/002677.html

Bernie


Sorry Bernie, only considering the Electro 3 or Korg M3.

chas
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#274697 - 10/30/09 12:59 PM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14287
Loc: NW Florida
Roland should do what Ketron did... announce something mind-bogglingly ahead of its' competitors, specs to make you drool down your bib, then sit on it for at least a couple of years while you try to figure out whether you CAN build something that equals those specs. Keep announcing delay after delay, then release it in an unfinished beta, and slowly do OS after OS to deliver only SOME of the promised features

In the meantime, everybody will discuss it ad nauseam, speculate and prognosticate, and generally keep it at the forefront of every potential arranger buyer's consciousness, and generate HUGE buzz and a favorable comparison to everything that is ACTUALLY released and working in the trenches. People will delay new purchases for MONTHS, sometimes years, in the hope that the thing will live up to the hype, and keep Roland (who won't have released ANYTHING for at least three years) at the forefront of everyone's consciousness.

And then, when the product finally ships, with several of the most groundbreaking features unable to be fully realized, or working in a fashion that customers could have already bought an arranger with this degree of crippled functionality long ago and a price point that would choke an elephant, you stay mostly silent and work excruciatingly slowly to fix the plethora of bugs that at first won't even let you use the thing in a pro situation, and then work begrudgingly on a manual so that existing owners have finally got some documentation about how to do things that other arrangers make easier in the first place...

That shouldn't hurt Roland's reputation even a little bit, should it? I've even got a name for this vaporware boondoggle... The Roland V-Arranger

Two YEARS worth of hype without having to show anything... what company could resist that marketing opportunity? Free publicity and damage your competitors' sales for nothing more than a NAMM announcement! So... hold off on that T3, keep delaying that PA2Xpro purchase.

The Roland V-Arranger is coming (soon)

(Roland, you owe me! )
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#274698 - 10/30/09 01:23 PM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
Diki, too funny

love your witty sarcasmic post !!!

[This message has been edited by leezone (edited 10-30-2009).]

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#274699 - 10/30/09 03:14 PM Re: Finally had my sit-down with Roland
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:
Not a problem, guys. You're right about the economy, George. Hope it picks up for everybody, soon.

T2, anyone? Probably less than 15 hrs playing time. Flawless. Make me an offer. Original everything. Upgraded memory. If anyone buys it, I'll probably get a M3 (or Nord Electro 3).

chas


ebay

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