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#275475 - 11/09/09 11:43 AM Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
I have an old Kenmore rather large water softener. Reading the instructions, it looks like they want it to regenerate once every 24 hours. We use 120-140 lbs of salt/mo.

The guy at Lowe's says that WAY too much and that I should be able to place the regeneration into manual mode where it only regenerates when I tell it to.

I am an idiot with this stuff.

Owner manual long gone...

Can anyone comment/help me?

Thanks-

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#275476 - 11/09/09 11:52 AM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Bill, here is some information on the Kenmore water softener.

http://baheyeldin.com/miscellany/fixing-a-sears-kenmore-water-softener.html

I believe there are manuals (in pdf.) available at the bottom of the page, as well as some "symptoms and solutions".


Hope this helps.

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#275477 - 11/09/09 11:53 AM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill in Dayton:
I have an old Kenmore rather large water softener. Reading the instructions, it looks like they want it to regenerate once every 24 hours. We use 120-140 lbs of salt/mo.

The guy at Lowe's says that WAY too much and that I should be able to place the regeneration into manual mode where it only regenerates when I tell it to.

I am an idiot with this stuff.

Owner manual long gone...

Can anyone comment/help me?

Thanks-



Bill, what's this got to do with Audyas, Korgs etc can you help me with the Audya manual like your salt consumption which appears hellish high to me, my time trying to get around the Auyda manual is the same, the softener try this site. http://www.kenmorewater.com/website/faq/frequently-asked-questions-about-water.html

Tony
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#275478 - 11/09/09 01:29 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
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Loc: Motown
After you get this solved, help me get the ice maker in my Kenmore refrigerator to work... can't find anything mechanically or electronically wrong, but...
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#275479 - 11/09/09 01:36 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
ianmcnll Offline
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by cassp:
After you get this solved, help me get the ice maker in my Kenmore refrigerator to work... can't find anything mechanically or electronically wrong, but...


Try here:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4708794_troubleshooting-kenmore-refrigerator-ice-maker.html

Or here:

http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf729843.tip.html
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#275480 - 11/09/09 01:55 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Bill, our system in our Florida home used about 1 bag a month and it was a large system. I think 1 bag is about 40 lbs. (maybe 50???). I'd say you were using WAYYY to much.

chas
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#275481 - 11/09/09 06:32 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
TomTomSF Offline
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Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 736
Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
It depends completely and entirely on the hardness of the water it needs to process. You must have the hardness tested (measured in grains). We have very hard well water and our demand-type softener regenerates very frequently. We use more that one bag of salt per week, sometime 4-6 per month Each bag is 40 pounds, so that's 160 to 240 pounds per month. If we reduce that, and regenerate less often, the hardness increases and the water quality goes down. We tried it. You need a water quality specialist to do the measurements. Or buy the test kits yourself. This can add up quickly and if you don't know what you are doing, you waste a lot of time and money. You can find a wealth of information about water softening principles on the web.
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#275482 - 11/09/09 08:15 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
cgiles Offline
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Yeah, what Tom says makes sense. We were treating already-treated but slightly 'hard' city water and probably required much less.

chas
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#275483 - 11/09/09 09:07 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
Quote:
Originally posted by Bill in Dayton:
I am an idiot with this stuff.
Owner manual long gone...
Can anyone... help me?


Join the club...
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#275484 - 11/09/09 10:40 PM Re: Water Softener question (Waaaay o/t)
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 2207
Loc: Dayton, OH USA
Quote:
Originally posted by TomTomSF:
It depends completely and entirely on the hardness of the water it needs to process. You must have the hardness tested (measured in grains). We have very hard well water and our demand-type softener regenerates very frequently. We use more that one bag of salt per week, sometime 4-6 per month Each bag is 40 pounds, so that's 160 to 240 pounds per month. If we reduce that, and regenerate less often, the hardness increases and the water quality goes down. We tried it. You need a water quality specialist to do the measurements. Or buy the test kits yourself. This can add up quickly and if you don't know what you are doing, you waste a lot of time and money. You can find a wealth of information about water softening principles on the web.


Our water is beyond belief hard. That's likely the culprit...

Thanks everyone!

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