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#278342 - 12/30/09 06:34 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
Same on KORG Forums.
We have probably 98% male, 2% female.

The females post quite often so they are easily spotted, but sadly that leads to problems as some males are simply not able to conduct themselves accordingly around a lady. It's sort of funny in a way, reminds me of being back in school in the kids playground.

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James

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#278343 - 12/30/09 08:08 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
124 Offline
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Registered: 01/01/09
Posts: 2195
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Originally posted by Taike:
Well, there's everyone's favorite, Rikkisbears... and Elizabeth.

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Taike



And there's Linda Fus. I can't think of any others.

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#278344 - 12/30/09 08:43 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
etwo4788 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 518
Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
Okay boyz......

The reason there are fewer women posting on musical forums is that women have always been surpressed in what they want to do with their own lives! The reason is MEN!

Go back to the stone ages and look at those big guys with clubs in one hand and the hair of a female of their species in the other hand.

Women still are fighting for equality all over the planet. As long as men are placed in positions of authority, women will not have an equal voice or equal treatment.

Examples: Women are still not totally in control of their own bodies. Women are not always credited with their contributions in every walk of life. In many countries of our world women are abused regularly and forced to comply with the wishes of men.

Why don't we post here on these musical forums? We do when we have something to say that feels worth sharing.

Over on the Technics forum, there is Audrey Turner and Joan Banfield in the U.K. and Mary from Tucson, and myself in NM U.S.A. who post from time to time....

TAIKE.... Thanks for remembering my name!

Elizabeth in New Mexico, U.S.A.

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#278345 - 12/30/09 08:45 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
btweengigs Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 2204
Loc: Florida, USA
Princess, every once in a great while.

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#278346 - 12/30/09 09:06 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 2207
Loc: Dayton, OH USA
Quote:
Originally posted by etwo4788:
Okay boyz......

The reason there are fewer women posting on musical forums is that women have always been surpressed in what they want to do with their own lives! The reason is MEN!

Go back to the stone ages and look at those big guys with clubs in one hand and the hair of a female of their species in the other hand.

Women still are fighting for equality all over the planet. As long as men are placed in positions of authority, women will not have an equal voice or equal treatment.

Examples: Women are still not totally in control of their own bodies. Women are not always credited with their contributions in every walk of life. In many countries of our world women are abused regularly and forced to comply with the wishes of men.

Why don't we post here on these musical forums? We do when we have something to say that feels worth sharing.

Over on the Technics forum, there is Audrey Turner and Joan Banfield in the U.K. and Mary from Tucson, and myself in NM U.S.A. who post from time to time....

TAIKE.... Thanks for remembering my name!

Elizabeth in New Mexico, U.S.A.


Thanks, Elizabeth for checking in.

I want to make sure I understand why you feel more women don't participate in the SZ forums. Full disclosure, I'm the proud papa of three young ladies.

Are you saying that women don't participate because of men not wanting them to?

Or are you saying, you will "when we have something to say that feels worth sharing."

Which almost sounds like you're saying women have very, very, very little to share on this forum.

Would you clarify, please?

Thanks-

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Bill in Dayton
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#278347 - 12/30/09 11:06 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Hey! I'm the boss of my family, and I have my wife's permission to say this!

Sorry Elizabeth--I just couldn't resist.

In reality, I only knew of one, female, arranger keyboard player in my part of the world. She was damned good, a lot better than most of the male players. She was a great vocalist as well, but she eventually gave it up because she lost her voice because of a surgical procedure that damaged her vocal folds. I still keep in touch with her and have encouraged her to get back into the biz, but she says that financially, it's not worth her time and effort. She makes more money teaching music at the local high school.

Cheers,

Gary
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#278348 - 12/30/09 11:44 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
etwo4788 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 518
Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
BILL in Dayton.....

I will attempt to clarify. No, I am not saying that women do not participate because of men not WANTING them to. I am saying that women are not allowed to particiapte as musicians where men are in authority. Keep in mind that this is my opinion and that I speak only for myself, as a result of my own experiences.

Yes, I am saying that women will share on these forums when we feel we want to share. For me, it is about the subject matter.

I am not a professionally trained musician. Mostly I play for my own pleasure and the pleasure of those who enjoy listening, playing along, and just sharing what we know about our keyboards. I play as a volunteer only. Therefore, in a group of musicians who play professionally, I have little to contribute or share that I feel might be of interest.

No, I am not saying that "women have very very little to share on this forum."

I am saying that I have very little I want to share on this forum. I was remiss in stating that I do not speak for any woman other than myself.

Hopefully BILL in Dayton, I have answered your questions?

Elizabeth

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#278349 - 12/30/09 11:45 AM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
124 Offline
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Registered: 01/01/09
Posts: 2195
Quote:
Originally posted by etwo4788:
Okay boyz......

The reason there are fewer women posting on musical forums is that women have always been surpressed in what they want to do with their own lives! The reason is MEN!

Go back to the stone ages and look at those big guys with clubs in one hand and the hair of a female of their species in the other hand.

Women still are fighting for equality all over the planet. As long as men are placed in positions of authority, women will not have an equal voice or equal treatment.

Examples: Women are still not totally in control of their own bodies. Women are not always credited with their contributions in every walk of life. In many countries of our world women are abused regularly and forced to comply with the wishes of men.

Why don't we post here on these musical forums? We do when we have something to say that feels worth sharing.

Over on the Technics forum, there is Audrey Turner and Joan Banfield in the U.K. and Mary from Tucson, and myself in NM U.S.A. who post from time to time....

TAIKE.... Thanks for remembering my name!

Elizabeth in New Mexico, U.S.A.


Elizabeth, it's generally accepted that an arranger forum concentrates on speaking about arrangers. I don't think your tirade against MEN, as you emphatically spat the word out, endears you to either sex. There are plenty of other fora for shouting from soapboxes. Try them.

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#278350 - 12/30/09 12:51 PM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Elizabeth, I think you'll find most of the people here are not pros, but that they just enjoy arrangers, as you do.
Maybe the pros are more vocal, but it's good to remember that a lot of what "we" say isn't even relevant for the vast majority of arranger players.
I think we need more women, posters AND players.
DonM
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#278351 - 12/30/09 12:59 PM Re: SZ membership: women vs. men?
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
Hi Elizabeth.

I have to say that when reading your posts I feel that there is a misplaced level of bitterness in your words towards men and that the world you believe you live in is certainly not the world the rest of us live in that's for sure.

You can be whatever your heart desires in this world. Women are in power all over the world and doing all the same things men are doing. The president of my Country is a women. Your friend in the UK lives under the rule of the Queen. About the only thing women haven't done yet is set foot on the moon and you can be sure that the reason NASA didn't send a women to the Moon wasn't to do with their sex.

Ok the world is not a pretty place, but it sure ain't the sexist place you make it out to be.

Equality starts within you know...!!!!

Regards
James

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