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#319974 - 03/23/11 04:55 PM So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos?
keybplayer Offline
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For instance, when the PA1X/PRO came out Korg gushed praise on it and also provided scads of "professionally" produced demos for the public to listen to. Same thing with the PA2XPRO. But Korg has really dropped the ball with the PA3X/PRO in my opinion. My question is why do you think that is?

My own guess is that Korg realizes the PA3X/PRO is nothing out of the ordinary or that significantly distinguishes it from a PA2X (or PA1X) and indeed the public has already compared it to a PA2X (and/or PA1X) with black paint instead of silver paint. If the PA3X/PRO was something considered "revolutionary" you could rest assured Korg would have touted it to a greater degree than they's done and would have provided a multitude of "professionally" produced demos for the public to devour and scrutinize. Since Korg has done neither it makes you wonder if they've 'lost' their music passion and strive for excellence and now with the passing of Korg company founder Tsutomu Katoh if indeed Korg will "lose" its way as a formidable keyboard company in the months and years ahead. Hopefully they won't but Korg's outright 'marketing flop' concerning the PA3X/PRO doesn't bode well for them in my opinion.

On the other hand when the PA3X/PRO starts showing up at dealers and there are people out there willing to take the plunge sight unseen (more like 'sound' unseen huh wink and word filters back that Korg is charging an arm and leg for a "black" PA2X/PA1X, people will probably be quite upset and Korg could have a "white elephant" on its hands (dressed in black laugh of course) and overall sales will drop dramatically as a result most likely. Why would people pay a premium for a top of the line arranger keyboard when the previous version is basically the same thing sound and feature wise as the new version? Sad to say, the current crop of PA3X demos have only enforced that perception in my opinion. I would also imagine a lot of people are listening to the demos on cheap laptop/desktop speakers instead of playing them through a decent sound system. A "mediocre" PA3X demonstration is further degraded when people listen to them on rinky dink speakers needless to say. wink BTW, I'm not trying to accuse anyone on this highly distinguished well respected audio discerning keyboard forum that members aren't taking the time to listen to the demos on a competent sound system and then judging accordingly. Lurkers perhaps, but not Fran, Dan, Don, Donny, Jim, Jack, John, Smitty, George, Bill, Scott, Dennis, Chas, etc., right? Right?? eek Just as I suspected. wink

All the best,
Mike



Edited by keybplayer (03/23/11 04:59 PM)
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#319977 - 03/23/11 05:34 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: keybplayer]
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It's simple marketing and economics; they pre-announced the Pa3xpro to halt further sales of the Yamaha T4 and the Ketron forcing potential buyers to delay their purchase until the Korg is ready for primetime. The only problem with this tactic is that it also retards potential sales of the Pa2xpro.
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#319980 - 03/23/11 06:30 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: keybplayer]
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I could start a war here, but is maybe is a cultural way of handling products for the folks in Italy.
The Korg PA line is under the control of Korg Italy.
Sounds familiar ?
What about Audya?
Maybe I am wrong, but it was not the Roland G70 build in Italy too?. and the E80/ E60/E50? Where are they now?

Those Ferraris are nice cars, but be prepare to spend a lot of money in the shop for repairs.
What about Fiat?
It will be nice if the PA line go back to Korg Japan, or Korg US, or Korg Taiwan or Korg Germany or Korg England or Korg.....
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#319981 - 03/23/11 06:41 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: Machetero]
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The Big Namm Fiasco was in the USA not in Italy. If you can blame someone blame Korg USA.


Edited by FransN (03/23/11 06:42 PM)

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#319983 - 03/23/11 06:49 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: keybplayer]
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The PA3X is not really announced yet.
When it is on KorgPA.COM then it is announced...that pre-announce screw up was Korg Corp I guess, trying to create interest.
Not a good thing to do IMHO. But, maybe they know more that we think?
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#319984 - 03/23/11 06:52 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: FransN]
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Originally Posted By: FransN
The Big Namm Fiasco was in the USA not in Italy. If you can blame someone blame Korg USA.


FransN,

True about NAMM,
But why Korg Italy, that is in charge of the PA line, have no been able to produce a worthy demo either?
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#319985 - 03/23/11 06:55 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: Machetero]
FransN Offline
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Originally Posted By: Machetero
Originally Posted By: FransN
The Big Namm Fiasco was in the USA not in Italy. If you can blame someone blame Korg USA.


FransN,

True about NAMM,
But why Korg Italy, that is in charge of the PA line, have no been able to produce a worthy demo either?


Because the PA3x isn't announced yet. The demo's come in april. Just be patient smile


Edited by FransN (03/23/11 06:57 PM)

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#319987 - 03/23/11 07:15 PM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: keybplayer]
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Originally Posted By: keybplayer
For instance, when the PA1X/PRO came out Korg gushed praise on it and also provided scads of "professionally" produced demos for the public to listen to. Same thing with the PA2XPRO. But Korg has really dropped the ball with the PA3X/PRO in my opinion. My question is why do you think that is?



There wasn't a Kronos when the PA1xPro was released smile

The Kronos was THE star as far as Korg goes. The demo guy apparently only got the PA3x the day before NAMM started...He is usually a very good demonstrator.

I don't think it was specifically because of the T4 showing, but that was perhaps one of the catalysts for Korg.

I tend to think it was more of a "hold up a second" from Korg Italy to Korg USA, who, imo, had no intention of having at their stand. Mainly for possible T4 buyers, to announce that a new Korg was coming, and to not jump in and buy the Yamaha.

Dennis

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#320003 - 03/24/11 01:50 AM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: keybplayer]
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Until something is officially launched, it is unlikely there will be any pro demos available.

The Official launch of the PA3x is at the Musikmesse in April, although SZ members attending the Pakefield Keyboard Festival will get to see it at the beginning of April.

Bill
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#320016 - 03/24/11 08:43 AM Re: So, why do you think Korg bumbled the PA3X demos? [Re: keybplayer]
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