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#419923 - 04/16/16 01:16 AM
Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already
[Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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Oh well, looks like you live in another world when it comes to Audya....
Norwegian prices at one of the largest musicstores here just now:
Tyros 5 - 76 NOKr. 37.900,-
Audya 76 NOKr. 46.900,- !!!!!
If we talk US $ : T5 - 4.595 / Audya - 5.685
PA4x 76 is priced a tiny bit lower than T5, but not in stock.
Johny, those where the prices i quaoted from switzerland, the store that rosetree linked to... overhere in Holland there is only 2 Ketron dealers... both are wellknown companies... One is near where i live and it has some good service and helpfull people. http://muziekhuisdera.nl/ Prices for 61 key versions are : EA-7 1199 S970 1849 PA900 1999 SD7 2699 Audya5 3299 Korg PA4x 3499 Yamaha Tyros5 3999 (may not be advertised any lower by Yamaha, but you can get a much better deal then that) expected price of the SD9 : 3499 All prices in Euro's... They are also one of the worlds leading companies when it comes to selling rebuild arrangers with accordeon knobs... Prices are all over... where ever you go
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#420069 - 04/19/16 02:50 PM
Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already
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#420096 - 04/20/16 01:28 AM
Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already
[Re: Anthony Johnson]
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No one seems to be saying anything about the new SD80 - what is this?
It's obviously up-range from the SD40, which is a SD7, so maybe an SD9 module - that would make it even more exciting than the SD40.
Or, could it be a replacement for the Audya module which could point to a new Audya being on the way.
Personally, I don't like all the secrecy about new keyboard stuff because I want to make my plans and decide what to do next.
Doesn't matter if they are not ready for sale yet as long as I can make a well informed decision, I am willing to wait.
Tony SD80 is the chromatic key version of the SD7, details here Bill
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#420125 - 04/20/16 12:48 PM
Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already
[Re: john smies]
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The streetprice of the SD7 here in Holland and Germany is approx.
2695 euros, ( if you are lucky you might get it at 2600). It does not need a genius to figure out that the SD40 will end up with a streetprice of approx. 2000 euros. Why ? Simply said, the SD40 is the SD7 in a box. It they were to retail it at say 1400 euros the sales of the SD7 would crumble and fall. By contrast they would sell many many modules, but mark my words " it ain't gonna happen "
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John
Maybe, maybe not, I'm not as sure as you about it. The ratio 2000:2690 is not the ratio of the prices quoted on the Swiss dealer's page - but that's just an unreliable indicator. But if you look at the Roland Integra, it has always been just under 1,500 euros, and according to your theory that would have made the Jupiter 80 completely obsolete, as, apart from the lower polyphony, it has all the Jupiter sounds and several thousands more. Probably there are not that many people that easily switch to a module, with respect to the "all-in-one" aspect, handy operation etc. Many here in the forum don't want additional gear with cables etc. The SD40 won't have any sliders, for example, a feature missing compared to the MidjPro. I think it's still possible the price could be considerably lower than 2,000 euros. I fear for 2,000 I'd rather keep my 1,295 euro BK-9 as a second keyboard. BTW, Ketron should think about their price for the SD7: After 10 months of being on offer, there are zero reviews at Thomann. The SD7 is obviously doing even worse than the BK-9, which was definitely a busted flush for Roland.
Edited by rosetree (04/20/16 12:58 PM)
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#420130 - 04/20/16 02:02 PM
Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already
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The streetprice of the SD7 here in Holland and Germany is approx.
2695 euros, ( if you are lucky you might get it at 2600). It does not need a genius to figure out that the SD40 will end up with a streetprice of approx. 2000 euros. Why ? Simply said, the SD40 is the SD7 in a box. It they were to retail it at say 1400 euros the sales of the SD7 would crumble and fall. By contrast they would sell many many modules, but mark my words " it ain't gonna happen "
regards
John
Maybe, maybe not, I'm not as sure as you about it. The ratio 2000:2690 is not the ratio of the prices quoted on the Swiss dealer's page - but that's just an unreliable indicator. But if you look at the Roland Integra, it has always been just under 1,500 euros, and according to your theory that would have made the Jupiter 80 completely obsolete, as, apart from the lower polyphony, it has all the Jupiter sounds and several thousands more. Probably there are not that many people that easily switch to a module, with respect to the "all-in-one" aspect, handy operation etc. Many here in the forum don't want additional gear with cables etc. The SD40 won't have any sliders, for example, a feature missing compared to the MidjPro. I think it's still possible the price could be considerably lower than 2,000 euros. I fear for 2,000 I'd rather keep my 1,295 euro BK-9 as a second keyboard. BTW, Ketron should think about their price for the SD7: After 10 months of being on offer, there are zero reviews at Thomann. The SD7 is obviously doing even worse than the BK-9, which was definitely a busted flush for Roland. Someone saying that the integra7 made the jupiter80 totally obsolete .... Totally missed the point of the Jupiter 80..... Jupiter 80 is all about livesets, which can see as hugely advanced 4 voice ensembles with for example the same technollogy as the tyros5 ensemble voices... Actually as a performance synthesizer, it took till now for it even to get some competition(montage) You cant compare jp80 to an i7 maybe some of the sounds are the same, but as performance instruments they are totally different...
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#420138 - 04/20/16 02:47 PM
Re: Ketron SD40 available in May already
[Re: Bachus]
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rosetree
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Someone saying that the integra7 made the jupiter80 totally obsolete .... Totally missed the point of the Jupiter 80..... Jupiter 80 is all about livesets, which can see as hugely advanced 4 voice ensembles with for example the same technollogy as the tyros5 ensemble voices...
Actually as a performance synthesizer, it took till now for it even to get some competition(montage)
You cant compare jp80 to an i7 maybe some of the sounds are the same, but as performance instruments they are totally different...
"Some of the sounds are the same" - I suggest you compare the data lists and look into the Jupiter 80 forum on Musikerboard, what Jupiter 80 owners have written about their thoughts of I7... The Integra 7 has about 90% of the Jupiter 80 sounds - the only ones missing are SN-A sounds of an older generation, which are of a minor quality according to Jup80 owners. But IN TURN, the I7 has got many ADDITIONAL SN-A sounds, particularly in the SN-A expansions, which are all missing in the Jup80. Not to mention the ENTIRE SRX library, of which there is NOTHING in the Jup80. The SN-Synth section is identical in Jup80 and Integra. So apart from the 256-voice polyphony of the Jup80, the Integra outclasses the Jup80 soundwise - and I've read about Jup80 owners scratching their head about spending so much more money, not knowing the Integra would be released.
Edited by rosetree (04/20/16 02:58 PM)
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