Got a New GM at my standing gig he i finding issues with every one

his issue with me is my T4 on the piano mind you it been that way for 2 years and I have grown there business in that bar 1000% and everyone love what I do bid following now ect

it just on guy who seem to want to chang what is not broken

so I have opted to offer a smaller unit and black in color

thus the S970 i use mostly song mode midi file and play grand piano

my act is build around my set up and I do what I do . I also play electric Guitar as well in the late set

i mostly play to full house so going backwards to just piano or to ipod tracks not what I want to do , I would like to offer a plan by taking off the silver unit and putting a smaller black unit

just need feed back on sounds v T4 I know keybed is a issue but i play Grand a lot and guitar as well so keyboard will be for other inst like sax flute lead guitar ect and some piano but midi file player verry important here screen inp as well

need some feed back before I tell him to go pound sand and take my following somewhare else I am trying to try to fix issue

thoughts ?

Ron

what am I missing here? how about using the Montage?..
seems like they just want some fresh air,...
or does he want to change the act bring in other people to perform? or? when one door closes another door opens,......
no gig lasts forever,..good luck

no he is not informed , been there 2 mo and has different ideas they tried the piano only before it was a big bust

it a high energy bar demo mid 20 to mid 50 4 big screens sports playing, loud people ect

i can play anywhere not a issue just was hired to do what i do and everybody love what I do good following ect

just one guy big problem

he is doing this to another musicican as well in another room it not me the bar is up over a million dollers over last year sales

i am just trying to offer a solution I can do a piano gig just dont want too after everybody come in expecting higher energy music

but post is about T4 v S970 I can play other places if it get to that i will get another gig in a week if that is what i want to do trying to make this guy happy if i can if not well then it will go back to what it was empty room

It sounds like the GM thinks the big silver colored Tyro looks tacky on top of the grand piano. I'm not sure if he'd like any keyboard , even a black one on on top of the grand piano. Maybe put your keyboard on a regular stand to the side of the grand piano or put your midi file tracks on a device like a laptop or tablet. I know it sucks when these GMs nit pick on little things like this, but it's the way it is...

donny I have a contract till January so just trying to make it work and do what I do .

Oh yeah, other than the color, nobody at the bar will notice a difference in sound between a Tyros and the 970. I'm sure you will though...

how about making a DUMMY Piano shell for the tyros?

I thought about doing that but not a lot of room he just a problem fing with everybody you see one of those guys

all other managers are not fans of him they have gone thru 3 GM in 2 years so who knows

prob the look but it a fast pace bar not a wine room like he thinks i not in any trouble of loosing the gig have contract but just trying to please maybe the other option is a way i pack the place kinda hard to understand so we will see what happens not worried just want to do what I do best for crowed people want dont stop believing and rock and all love that one guy that is not even there at night wants solo piano kinda strange situation

donny I have a contract till January so just trying to make it work and do what I do .

there is a Grand there already on T4 there is vga out for computer monitor is there a way to do it with a I pad so I can see the Tyros screen if so I could set unit on side and take off Piano

dont really want to do that but if i need to I could try

what is the procedure I know with a vga screen but tab I do not ??

The 970 is more than capable of filling the T4 shoes

jingleman

Hi,
I have both Keyboards, and was able to mostly convert everything to the S970 and make it sound as good as the T4.
It took me a while to get used to the keybed of the S970, but it is not a problem anymore.
I love the small footprint and weight.
The main differences between the 2 keyboards are:

1. S970 is missing SA2 sounds. The SA sounds are great, but sometimes I would like to have the SA2 sounds...
2. No aftertouch. Not a problem when playing the piano, but I miss it when playing other sounds. You can work around it by using the modulation wheel or put it on a pedal.
3. Much fewer DSP's. That will effect some Midi files and you need to work them up a bit.
I had to rework some of my T4 styles because of less DSP effects. But mostly I found work arounds.....

Overall I love what the S970 offers.
After a bit of tweaking I got it to really rock ....

Hope this helps.
Let me know if you have other questions.

Eric

I've had both the Tyros 4 and still own the S970. I gigged with both over the past few years.

The Tyros has a great sound and controls for live play. The S970 has a good sound and a much lighter footprint to carry around.

I'm currently gigging with a Korg PA 4X. Has the controls(+) and sound of the Tyros but also has the size and close to the weight of my S970.

If Yamaha ever produces a Tyros similar to my Korg PA 4X, I might switch to that.

please ignore,

Ron, many years ago when I was playing at Dela Note' in Baltimore's little Italy, I had to set up on a tiny piano bar stage in front of a full size, Steinway Grand. I placed my keyboard stand in such a way that it was just above the piano keybed, thus out of sight, out of mind. Worked for me. Of course, I didn't play the piano, and I rarely brought in my 12-string and played to backing tracks.

I actually got fired from that job because I was too entertaining and kept the patrons in the lounge area, eating free snack food and drinking $2 draft beers. The lounge area was intended to just be a waiting area until they could get a seat in the restaurant where the prices were outrageously high.

All the best,

Gary

What i like about the T4 is the SA2 sounds, the keybed, and the layout of the buttons...

What the 970 has to offer is lower weight, and personally i think the 2 knobs, with arpeggios and deejay styles really are a step forward for anyone that also needs to play some 2016 dance music..


I agree with you on the pa4x... However, comming from the T5, there are also some things i will miss of the T5 when deciding to go to a pa4x....

I did a thing once, where the grand piano was actually in my way, and didn't sound very good, so I put an X stand right over the keys of the piano and set my synth on top of that. The room saw a piano, and heard my rig. It's insane to think that a club owner or GM can dictate what gear you use, let alone the COLOR! Geeze.

I'm thinking by the sound of it the GM wants a low keypiano lounge effect vs high energy?

I am looking into a couple of things

a skirt I can design to cover up the front and sides of the Tyros black in color and maybe silk screen my Name on it AKA Gary Diamond .

and moving the piano to a different place in the club so it is placed away from the door that is leaking out to lobby where the noise level seem to be a little loud if this happens should solv the issue

unless this GM is just a jack ass then no prob and i go somewhere else and take my following with me

spoke to 3 other managers they all say it no issue with me as all and think this new guy is just messing with stuff that is not broke

so we will see I will do my part funny thing is the GM has never come in to see what I do and all the other managment says what I do is thwe best thing they have had in there for 20 years

go figure

I think it will find a way to work it way out , I know if I leave the GM will get many complaints

I think it will be fine but I have a contract till Jan at this point so we will see.

just go over his head to the top,..see what they say,.....
they could be unaware as usual.

Unfortunately a new manager in ANY scenario wants to make his/her 'mark' ... It is a fact of life ... More unfortunate is the fact that some of the changes are not for the better ...
Ron, have you tried to sit with the new GM and talk things over?
Best of luck with whatever happens.

I've had issues in private clubs, or with party planners when I've had my own name advertised in big letters anywhere. (used to have my name stenciled on the speaker grills) The higher end a venue is, the less they like to advertise for anyone/thing other than themselves. This is common in the country club circuit. entertainers are hired guns, and the planners and directors get the attention (money) ... we get a check, and the applause.
Real World Entertainment 101.

I played a PSR S 970 Yesterday very impressive little keyboard
very nice layout and mp3/wav file player as well
they packed a lot of usable stuff in this unit .

The GM will continue to nitpick, he seems to be built that way.
Honor your contract and then go where you will be appreciated.
You have a good following and I am sure you will pick up another
following if you change. Good luck whatever to choose to do.
Lloyd

that is what I will do if it continues Ii have offered a good solution to any issue he might have so I have done what i will do we will see no issue going somewhere else but would like to stay if possable I saw a 970 ans=d really liked the little unit

esp the audio player
some things I will need to get used too if I go that direction

I will wait to see.

Ron

Hi,
if you mainly use a keyboard for backing tracks for your piano playing, couldn't you put your keyboard next to you rather than on top of the piano, might be more of a visual issue with him rather than anything against keyboards.

Could you put your backing tracks on a laptop as audio files?

For the songs that you do play the keyboard, feature it as an instrument in it's own right, ( instead of an add on to the piano) feature it the same as you would guitar playing or the piano?

Could be worth finding out if the issue is the keyboard itself , OR the fact that it sits on top of the piano.

( hubby would have throttled me if I'd sat something on top of the baby grand , except for the silver candelabra. ( seriously he bought a candelabra for it. Haha )

For me as an audience member, be a case of wow, this guy plays 3 instruments and sings.