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#435539 - 08/03/17 03:26 PM CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited
Dnj Offline
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I'm still on the fence with this interesting amp,..was thinking about getting one to use at home. If your using a V.3 unit chime in..



Edited by Dnj (08/03/17 05:10 PM)

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#435555 - 08/03/17 06:32 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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99% of the people who have one love it. And the reason the few who don't is volume. There is now a bigger model available so you can get that or the original with a small sub.
I'm thinking the same as you, nice small stereo unit for home.
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#435556 - 08/03/17 07:10 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Bill Lewis]
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Originally Posted By Bill Lewis
There is now a bigger model available


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#435560 - 08/03/17 08:25 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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CPS Spacestation XL . 700 watts and 12" main speaker. I believe it should be available soon. But the decision is that or the original smaller one with a small sub like the Behringer 1200.
For just studio use the original 8" model would probably be fine.
Some guys here have them.


Edited by Bill Lewis (08/03/17 08:33 PM)
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#435562 - 08/03/17 09:10 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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Thanx Bill for the info...would love to play thru one in a store sometime if I could ever find one.

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#435568 - 08/03/17 11:43 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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I guess I'm the 1 percent who didn't like it. HAD to use a sub, had to prop it up, and build some sort of shield for it, and it still sounded awful on stage. Audience said it was o.k. though.
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#435574 - 08/04/17 02:57 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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I use mine in my studio as well as most gigs. I usually have it sitting on my Logitech Z2200 sub, but it isn't necessary on band day with my Hammond SK1 as I don't need my pedals. Everyone loves the spacious swirling sound. In a large room, it won't sound as good to you as it does to everyone else unless you use any sort of panel on the right side deflected about 45 degrees and facing you. The side firing speaker has to have enough space to "bloom", or converge with the front speaker to get the stereo effect. Since Don is pretty savvy, I am not sure what was wrong, but I love it.
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#435584 - 08/04/17 06:06 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
I use mine in my studio as well as most gigs. I usually have it sitting on my Logitech Z2200 sub, but it isn't necessary on band day with my Hammond SK1 as I don't need my pedals. Everyone loves the spacious swirling sound. In a large room, it won't sound as good to you as it does to everyone else unless you use any sort of panel on the right side deflected about 45 degrees and facing you. The side firing speaker has to have enough space to "bloom", or converge with the front speaker to get the stereo effect. Since Don is pretty savvy, I am not sure what was wrong, but I love it.


Thanx Bernie..
I value you and Don M's opinions even tough they are so opposite...I ran the KORG Pa4x thru both my LD Maui 28s and OMG!!! although not practical and much too big for the house.....my Senn headphones and Rokit monitors will suffice for now for Stereo sound when playing/recording. smirk

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#435594 - 08/04/17 07:01 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I guess I'm the 1 percent who didn't sort of shield for it, and it still sounded awful on stage. Audience said it was o.k. though.


I'm with you Don. Got one from Sweetwater and played around with it as touted to do, behind walls, in other rooms, against a wall, angled, you name it......IMO, was dreadful. NO comparison vs stereo imaging.
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#435598 - 08/04/17 08:00 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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I love mine !

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#435604 - 08/04/17 08:51 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: spalding1968]
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Its amazing to read such radically different opinions Pro & Con?
I guess it's a personal thing and you have to actually experience one for yourself.
The CENTER POINT STEREO: Spacestation XL looks interesting also..

http://aspenpittmandesigns.com/cps-spacestation-xl/


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#435609 - 08/04/17 09:17 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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I would bet that the few who did not like it were doing something wrong. After all, we are all experienced musicians with varying abilities perhaps, but the same ears and appreciation for a good sound. Even when I first got mine and made mistakes( I thought), the audience thought it was great, as well as band members. Don't forget that you will not hear what the audience hears if it is not set up right. JMO.


Edited by Bernie9 (08/04/17 09:18 AM)
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#435613 - 08/04/17 09:28 AM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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Bernie as I read some of the reviews what bugs me is that many say you need optional things to either prop up, redirect, or whatever to add to the sound coming out and that makes me second guess and ask WHY?
Who wants to carry more gear around? It should stand up on it's own merits right ?

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#435621 - 08/04/17 12:56 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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More gear? How many speakers do you carry for stereo sound? This looks like less gear, not more. We are talking about a 1/8 x 24" x 18" pc of plywood, or, set horizontally on an amp stand, or, tilted up in a corner. How hard can that be ?
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#435622 - 08/04/17 01:08 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By Bernie9
I would bet that the few who did not like it were doing something wrong. After all, we are all experienced musicians with varying abilities perhaps, but the same ears and appreciation for a good sound. Even when I first got mine and made mistakes( I thought), the audience thought it was great, as well as band members. Don't forget that you will not hear what the audience hears if it is not set up right. JMO.

From the mile long thread on Keyboard Corner I think learning how to use it in different situations is the key. Also from reading that thread some guys put it sideways with the side speaker firing down, on a small amp stand so you don't need a baffle. Or on its side with a,wedge,to tilt it back on top of their small sub.
Lots,to think about but it seems to be a big seller.
Good Luck
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#435625 - 08/04/17 03:19 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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Dnj, I would say in a controlled environment like home studio, a 2.1 setup might work better than the CPS. The idea of the CPS is creating a 3D stereo sound image on a stage in such a way that the performer can hear himself/herself without a monitor and just about everyone in the audience also hears the same stereo.

I heard both the bigger model and the new V3 at NAMM. Though Aspen told me that the new model sounds exactly the same as the old model, some say that the older V3 sounds better. I don’t know for sure as I have only the old V3.

To say the least, the CPS is a different animal. When I ran my Roland accordion directly through the CPS, it didn’t sound good. Actually it was bad as the left and right of the Roland accordion output bleed into each other. Only when I ran my accordion through a mixer, the CPS sounded very good. When vArranger played multiple instruments, the CPS really shined. All the instruments filled up a large acoustic space.
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#435626 - 08/04/17 03:23 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Torch]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Torch
Dnj, I would say in a controlled environment like home studio, a 2.1 setup might work better than the CPS. The idea of the CPS is creating a 3D stereo sound image on a stage in such a way that the performer can hear himself/herself without a monitor and just about everyone in the audience also hears the same stereo.

I heard both the bigger model and the new V3 at NAMM. Though Aspen told me that the new model sounds exactly the same as the old model, some say that the older V3 sounds better. I don’t know for sure as I have only the old V3.

To say the least, the CPS is a different animal. When I ran my Roland accordion directly through the CPS, it didn’t sound good. Actually it was bad as the left and right of the Roland accordion output bleed into each other. Only when I ran my accordion through a mixer, the CPS sounded very good. When vArranger played multiple instruments, the CPS really shined. All the instruments filled up a large acoustic space.


Torch thanx for your in depth hands on review, ....but after pondering all the emails, & opinions/revies etc, at this time between my studio monitors, headphones, and PA I am going to hold off and enjoy what I have for now....take care

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#435712 - 08/07/17 11:38 PM Re: CenterPoint Stereo Space Station V.3 Revisited [Re: Dnj]
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Excellent amp. Used mine for smaller gigs this past year. Will use it again if/when I start doing live gigs.
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