If you run it on a tablet or laptop
You can take it with you and prepare new performances
Comfortably on the couch next to the misses..

I never sit more then 2 hours behind the keys
The rest of the evening there is a social part called fammily
Which requires my attention in the living room

Reading, talking, watching tele, or ipadding.

It would be great to be able to prepare your music from the couch, using a tablet...
And that can only be done with a full software setup..

For example--

Bachus makes a rather bold statement here. It assumes that one has the patience and a sophisticated enough software system to facilitate the creative process.

I sequenced for years, but now find it too time consuming and cumbersome in the creative process. I purchased the latest BIAB and have yet dug into it. (Working full time probably has something to do with that).

To me... there's nothing faster and more satisfying than turning on an arranger and start creating. The new multitrack audio recording feature that appears to be available in the new Genos update, also is a step in speeding up the creative process.

I love editing audio files much more than sequenced files. And with the multiple outputs of the Genos...that only offers more mixing flexibility.

Again...this is my personal opinion and somewhat skewed after 40 years of studio production. So from my perspective...keep the hardware arranger technology rollin'

From my point of view, (none professional) I have BIAB but never use it when I have an arranger. As the arranger does everything that BIAB does but on the fly; ok it is an older version but a full version at that. I found you have to take your laptop with this version to play the files - unless they are midi, then I just use the keyboard anyway. Although, it has just died and I need a replacement..........

I also have a version of Sonar Producer 6 an older version true, it works well, but I don't use it unless I want to change an audio file.

Honestly if you could get an easy arranger software that works on the fly with your keyboard on a lightweight tablet, I would look into it. As I don't own a Mac or Ipad, but have laptops and Android tablets to play with.

Allan

Try this

Bill

As technically challenged as I am, I have to agree vArranger is the simplest and best software program. I have been with Dan since the beginning, and have seen his creation evolve into a powerhouse that can use a multitude of styles and sounds, including vst's.

Thanks Bill, just been looking through the specs. It does go on a PC laptop, so that is a can do and it is full of options. Still looking through it though, as I would want to run it live and do set lists of my own music, plus a small bands music we have here.

Thanks again

Allan

He deffinately made huge steps.. altough i think the tempo of new things dropped something over the last 2 years.. the V-arranger is a very well done tradaitional arranger.

I would love to see him make a 2nd product based on arrangements..
Much more innovative
With 16 style tracks
With 16 multipads
And being able to program your own setup.. much like ketrons launchpads... but then with 16 sections... which could also be the traditional intro/var/fill

And then 16 sound tracks for keyboard/pedal parts.. with support for all of Yamaha’s arppegiator types..


This would take V-arranger pro, or whatever the new product is named another step forward... and since it would be a sepperate product, it would also bring the programmer some new well earned cash flow..

It would also prevent the orriginal V-arranger from getting to complicated.

Yes, that would be a big set up from what I just read. The more practical the product the more useful I believe it would be for a wider group of user/players. I would go for the Pro version myself. I don't care about learning curves to begin with just as long as I could get out what I need.

Allan

I would also like to see a top notch native softsynth that didn't rely on 3rd party modules or vsts. Several attempts were made, including the start of a 3rd party programmer to develop one as a exra cost option, but it never got off the ground. For technical people accustomed to configuring their sounds with vsts etc., it wouldn't be as appealing as the mainstream players, but not having to carry an SD2 or SD1000, is a big plus. The present softsynth is okay, but not, IMO, top grade.

It has been a while since I considered a software based arranger but the example Bill provided via the link sure looks impressive.

Do you know if there is a version available for the Linux Mint Operating System? (It is a GUI type OS and free.)

Cost and learning curve would be my primary concerns... but do you also recommend using a dedicated, normally "off-line" computer as an added security measure? I know that updates and Virtual Instruments would require being "on-line" briefly.

I view the internet with much distrust these days.

Thanks for sharing your ideas and opinions. ----Dave Rice

The easiest VST to integrate, should be Halion Sonic 3 which could be expanded with Halion 6 if required.

Bill

The problem for me is....the content is not ready to go....if you like do it yourself and like to create it's fine...I had VA2 for a while.

I have decided I want to sit down and play...not put everything together myself so I can sit down and play.
Of course styles are no issue...but to me they don't sound as good as HW arrangers....and usually need some kind of tweeking.

I think content is the biggest thing you pay for in a HW arranger.....IMHO.

I'm with you on this one Lee --- more play and less stuff is more fun. (For me). Sax, guitar, violin, you just pick up and play.

Only my opinion, John C.

PS, I must admit that in my Kn7000 days I did a great deal tech work.

Last time i checked, Dann told me there where 4 soundpackages available for the 4 main synth brands (yamaha, korg, ketron, roland) each at a cost of €100.. i only saw possitive comments on the sound quallity...

I hoped this would be the step required to make it a full software setup...

I know.

Initial cost of Varranger software to get started? And any interface hardware?

About $400 for SW.... need a MIDI keyboard ($100 - $400)...a decent modern PC....and of course a audio sound system.
Sound modules/VST of course are needed... that is a very variable cost....but to start you can use the built in sounds.

More info go to V Arranger web site and forums.

https://www.varranger.com/

Sparky

The SD4 is mapped already.