Greetings all. This is my first time on this forum, and I see that there are loads of ppl on here who know what they're on about, which is a refreshing change. Anyway, I've been debating with myself whether to buy a kn2400 or a kn5000. I know the 2400 is newer, but in its prime, the 5000 was awesome and I'm just wondering which one is the better keyboard? better sounds, rythms, user-friendly etc...?

As far as I'm concerned they are both great keyboards. The 5000 may be a little better in sound and maybe a few more festures but the 2400 would allow to you utilize all the newer styles from all the past KN series keyboards including the KN7000.

I have a RP54 Piano which has most of the same features as the KN2400 and I love it.

Hope this helps.


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Heather- Leesburg, FL PR54

[B]Greetings all. This is my first time on this forum, Anyway, I've been debating with myself whether to buy a kn2400 or a kn5000.

Welcome Baz.Welcome.
Why not try for a Kn2600? it is nearest to the KN7000. and Bill Norrie has made available free downloads for the Kn2600. also for the KN2400.
I have had both, and prefere the KN2600.
Not much difference in price!but the SD card
is better than the floppy
Regards.
Joe.



[This message has been edited by Joe Baron (edited 11-23-2005).]

Thanks. If i'm going to pay 380 for a kn5000 or 400 for a kn2600, which would be best value for money wise?

For my money I go for the KN2600.

Just a caution, I don't know where you are getting these from but be aware that if it is through EBay there are a number of scams out there. Do not pay by check or money order. Only buy from those that take credit cards or Paypal unless you know the person you are buying from.


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Heather- Leesburg, FL PR54

The reason I am using the keyboard I will buy is for recording using Cubase. Out of the box (with nothing added). which keyboard has more sounds/more rhythms/has a better sound? thanx again...

BAZ

KN5000 in my opinion, Baz
Rog

Thanx for the reply Rog. I agree, the kn2600 may be a better keyboard in some aspects, however, for recording I believe the kn5000 is the way to go, thanx for all of your help.

Baz

If i'm going to pay 380 for a kn5000 or 400 for a kn2600, which would be best value.

The KN2600 is a lot younger than the KN5000 and with the free downlaods will have more styles! The sound is NX and better than the PCM sound the KN5000 uses. plus it is faster due to the SD card, But it is a matter of choice. For me and I have owned both, it's got to be the KN2600.The last keyboard made by Technics

Regards.
Joe.

[This message has been edited by Joe Baron (edited 11-25-2005).]

Sounds good, but where do I download the styles from, how do I put them on the keyboard?

where do I download the styles from, how do I put them on the keyboard?[/B][/QUOTE]

Hi Baz, Bill Norries site.See below. download to SD card (64 Meg)
Regards.
Joe.

Bill Norrie posted.
The file is now posted on an additional page on my website : http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/knsdcard64/index.html
Anyone who wants the file is welcome to download it........

Wow! that looks pretty cool, thanx ... So in effect, I can use all those styles on a kn2600 through an sd card yes? And I know this will make me sound like such a noob, but I've heard brief descriptions, but what is the difference between NX and PCM sound?

Sounds easy don't it....chuckle....
and you are thinking of buying a second hand KN2400 or KN2600 which may or may not have the original software with it to enable these files to be transferred either by floppy disks or USB connection to whichever of these two keyboards you buy.
Straight out of the box straight into cubase I think you said - with either the KN2400 or KN2600 secondhand you may find that you experience a significant gap between opening the box and commencing to use cubase...
Rog

I estimate this gap to be 5 seconds - the time it takes to plug the midi leads in.

My second paragraph related specifically to my first paragraph...

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Our friend Baz-minor is a student somewhere in the UK - has heard the KN5000 and thinks it's awesome but wants to add 'more sounds/more rhythms'if he purchases the KN2400 or KN2600. It has been suggested that Willum's site has a complete download originally from the now defunct Technics.com web site but it is clear that Baz wants to get on with working with cubase. My advice is that working with a secondhand KN2400 or KN2600 possibly without the original software might be a longer process and somewhat more complex than purchasing a KN5000 with which latter instrument he can get straight into cubase as you suggest in 5 seconds approx.

no, the 2400 and 2600 have exactly the same midi sockets as the 5000. Thus as far as working in cubase straight away is concerned there is no difference between any of them.

wow, i never realised I would get this many replies, yes I do want to start recording using cubase immediately and yes I have heard the kn5000 and I think its awesome. It all depends on how much these items are sold for, but I think I will go for the kn2600, because I can transfer the styles to sd via the keyboard (very slow I know, but oh well) ... does anybody know which has the best user friendly on board system? best on board mixer?....Thanx again, Baz

[B]wow, i never realised I would get this many replies,

Hi Baz.
Software is almost always included with the purchased Keyboard. But you will find much help if you are short of anything.
You have more chance of getting the software you want for the last keyboard Technics made the KN2600, than getting software for a now very much older second hand KN5000
I forgot to say the free downloads I refered to were made available by Technics player. You are new to the site,so when you get advice from Technis Player take it.
His knowledge is vast on any aspect of keyboards.
Kind regards.
Joe.

[This message has been edited by Joe Baron (edited 11-24-2005).]

Yes good luck Baz.
Alec I think we are communicating at cross purposes - I was refering to the time Baz might spend dealing with other matters relating to a KN2400 or a KN2600 before he even gets into the realms of connecting his keyboard purchase to cubase software.
Never mind t'lad seems to know what he wants to do, eh...
Rog

as far as cubase is concerned there is little difference between them, the 2600 will work fine without any software, just as the 5000 would. If you get the 5000 look for a style converter and initial floppy to be supplied, if the 2600 an applications and driver cd.

5000 pros, more on board styles (lots of downloads from Gunnar Jonny's site), built like a tank, better keyboard (if not hammered by now), great sounding amp/speakers, hardly need monitors, colour screen, more panel memories, 20 patterns in flash memory don't need loading, after touch.
5000 cons, floppy takes a long time to load/save, 3 part accomp.

2600 pros, more modern styles and latest styles on SD download, faster load/save, 8 part accomp, better pads, General Midi 2, digital audio recording through usb, digital audio playback from SD card if you buy an extra cost kit to transfer audio from the pc to the card.
2600 cons, cheaper lightweight construction, key feel not as nice, weedy speakers but fine with eq tweaked up through monitors, blue screen, only 24 panel memories (though a fast SD load partly compensates), no after touch.

...swings and roundabouts!

[This message has been edited by technicsplayer (edited 11-24-2005).]

thanks for all your replies, from what you have all told me, I'm not too bothered which keyboard I get, which ever one I can get the quickest and for the cheapest...I will get. They both have their pro's which warrant me buying them. Thanx for all your contributions, I'm bidding on a kn2600 in a couple of hours...I'll let you know how it goes...

I bidded on the kn2600...unfortunately not winning, the next keyboard which will be finishing soonest is a kn5000, I will simply keep going through all the keyboards available in order of which finishes first bidding with the highest I am prepared to pay, it appears the keyboard I get is now in the hands of fate...

The 2600 can play KN2000, KN3000, KN5000, KN6000 KN6500 and KN7000 type files. (All KN's)

The 5000 can play KN2000, KN3000, and KN5000 type files. (5000 and below only)

For me this makes the 2600 a no brainer, especially since it is a newer model, with more modern features.

Larry

posted by lahawk: For me this makes the 2600 a no brainer, Larry

Hi Larry.
What dose a "no brainer" mean?
I have not heard that expression before!
Is it an Americanism?
Kind regards.
Joe.

Hi Baz
I have a KN2600 which I bought as a 'back up in case of emergencies' to my KN7000 which I gig with. I've taken it out a couple of times but otherwise it stays in it's bag in the spare bedroom.
I would consider selling it if the offer was sensible.
BTW what part of the country do you live in?
John

I would have made you an offer....but i've just bought a kn5000 for 225!!! I can't believe I got it at that price, it comes in the next few days...thanx for all your help.

"No Brainer" means not much thought needed, as the choice should be obvious. I didn't realize it was an "American Saying"
Larry



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SynthZone Frapper

hi, thanx for all your help, and I bought a kn5000, its at home now and its pretty good I must say. I got it for 225, which I think is somewhat of a bargain...anyway, thanks again.